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"Life is not a matter of holding good cards, but of playing a poor hand well."
–Josh Billings (pseudonym of Henry Wheeler Shaw), Josh Billings on Ice, and Other Things (1868) (erroneously attributed to Robert Louis Stevenson, among others) -
“I am still learning.”
—Domenico Giuntalodi (but misattributed to Michelangelo Buonarroti (common phrase throughout 1500's)). -
"Love work; hate mastery over others; and avoid intimacy with the government."
—Shemaya, in the Thalmud -
"It is a pleasant world we live in, sir, a very pleasant world. There are bad people in it, Mr. Richard, but if there were no bad people, there would be no good lawyers."
—Charles Dickens, “The Old Curiosity Shop ... With a Frontispiece. From a Painting by Geo. Cattermole, Etc.” 255 (1848) -
"A system of law that not only makes certain conduct criminal, but also lays down rules for the conduct of the authorities, often becomes complex in its application to individual cases, and will from time to time produce imperfect results, especially if one's attention is confined to the particular case at bar. Some criminals do go free because of the necessity of keeping government and its servants in their place. That is one of the costs of having and enforcing a Bill of Rights. This country is built on the assumption that the cost is worth paying, and that in the long run we are all both freer and safer if the Constitution is strictly enforced."
—Williams v. Nix, 700 F. 2d 1164, 1173 (8th Cir. 1983) (Richard Sheppard Arnold, J.), rev'd Nix v. Williams, 467 US. 431 (1984). -
"The criminal goes free, if he must, but it is the law that sets him free. Nothing can destroy a government more quickly than its failure to observe its own laws, or worse, its disregard of the charter of its own existence."
—Mapp v. Ohio, 367 U.S. 643, 659 (1961). -
"Any costs the exclusionary rule are costs imposed directly by the Fourth Amendment."
—Yale Kamisar, 86 Mich.L.Rev. 1, 36 n. 151 (1987). -
"There have been powerful hydraulic pressures throughout our history that bear heavily on the Court to water down constitutional guarantees and give the police the upper hand. That hydraulic pressure has probably never been greater than it is today."
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"The great end, for which men entered into society, was to secure their property."
—Entick v. Carrington, 19 How.St.Tr. 1029, 1066, 95 Eng. Rep. 807 (C.P. 1765) -
"It is a fair summary of history to say that the safeguards of liberty have frequently been forged in controversies involving not very nice people. And so, while we are concerned here with a shabby defrauder, we must deal with his case in the context of what are really the great themes expressed by the Fourth Amendment."
—United States v. Rabinowitz, 339 U.S. 56, 69 (1950) (Frankfurter, J., dissenting) -
"The course of true law pertaining to searches and seizures, as enunciated here, has not–to put it mildly–run smooth."
—Chapman v. United States, 365 U.S. 610, 618 (1961) (Frankfurter, J., concurring). -
"A search is a search, even if it happens to disclose nothing but the bottom of a turntable."
—Arizona v. Hicks, 480 U.S. 321, 325 (1987) -
"For the Fourth Amendment protects people, not places. What a person knowingly exposes to the public, even in his own home or office, is not a subject of Fourth Amendment protection. ... But what he seeks to preserve as private, even in an area accessible to the public, may be constitutionally protected."
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“Experience should teach us to be most on guard to protect liberty when the Government’s purposes are beneficent. Men born to freedom are naturally alert to repel invasion of their liberty by evil-minded
rulers. The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well-meaning but without understanding.”
—United States v. Olmstead, 277 U.S. 438, 479 (1925) (Brandeis, J., dissenting)
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“Liberty—the freedom from unwarranted intrusion by government—is as easily lost through insistent nibbles by government officials who seek to do their jobs too well as by those whose purpose it is to oppress; the piranha can be as deadly as the shark.”
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"You can't always get what you want / But if you try sometimes / You just might find / You get what you need."
—Mick Jagger & Keith Richards, Let it Bleed (album, 1969) -
"In Germany, they first came for the communists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a communist. Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew. Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist. Then they came for
the Catholics and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Catholic. Then they came
for me–and by that time there was nobody left to speak up."
—Martin Niemöller (1945) [he served seven years in a concentration camp] -
“Children grow up thinking the adult world is ordered, rational, fit for purpose. It’s crap. Becoming a man is realising that it’s all rotten. Realising how to celebrate that rottenness, that’s freedom.”
– John le Carré, The Night Manager (1993), line by Richard Roper -
"The point of the Fourth Amendment, which often is not grasped by zealous officers, is not that it denies law enforcement the support of the usual inferences which reasonable men draw from evidence. Its protection consists in requiring that those inferences be drawn by a neutral and detached magistrate instead of being judged by the officer engaged in the often competitive enterprise of ferreting out crime."
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Category Archives: Reasonable suspicion
IL: Taking the keys to a car can still be only a Terry seizure, not an arrest
Taking the keys to a car can still be only a Terry seizure, not an arrest. Reasonable suspicion not decided below, so remanded. People v. Pellegrino, 2024 IL App (2d) 230343, 2024 Ill. App. LEXIS 1675 (July 18, 2024). Defendant’s … Continue reading
MS applies exclusionary rule to code enforcers
A code enforcement officer violated the Fourth Amendment and the exclusionary rule is applied. JDB Rentals, LLC v. City of Verona, 2024 Miss. App. LEXIS 290 (July 16, 2024). Defendant waived (or abandoned) any reasonable expectation of privacy in his … Continue reading
MT: RS def was too drunk to drive from description, allegedly crawling to car, then officer talking to him
The citizen informant’s defendant was too drunk to drive because he stumbled and crawled to his car was corroborated by observations and smelling him, so there was at least reasonable suspicion. Defendant’s claim that his bar receipt from inside the … Continue reading
OH4: Waiting for backup was prudent for delaying dog sniff even though there was no RS
With a late night stop of a person that had a drug history and the officer was outnumbered, it was prudent to call for backup before the dog sniff, and the total elapsed time wasn’t that much. The court of … Continue reading
LA4: Being seen in a “drug hot spot” adds nothing to RS
Being seen in NOLA “drug hot spots” doesn’t add anything to reasonable suspicion. Suppression affirmed. State v. Tate, 2024 La. App. LEXIS 1107 (La. App. 4 Cir. July 11, 2024). The complainant’s telling the police of being drugged for sex … Continue reading
CA11: No co-conspirator standing in two cars
Here there were two vehicles stopped. Defendant was a passenger in one, and he had no standing in either merely being a co-conspirator to a drug operation. United States v. Lewis, 2024 U.S. App. LEXIS 16803 (11th Cir. July 10, … Continue reading
D.P.R.: A cell phone found with drugs had its incriminating nature immediately apparent for plain view
A cell phone found with drugs had its incriminating nature immediately apparent for plain view. United States v. Fernandez-Santos, 2024 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 121462 (D.P.R. July 8, 2024). In an illegal entry case, identification evidence allegedly illegally seized is not … Continue reading
KS: Extending stop on a hunch lacked RS
“LaGuardia argues that Officer Opperman lacked reasonable suspicion to extend the stop from a crash report to a DUI investigation. He claims that the officer investigated LaGuardia for DUI only because he abandoned his vehicle after the accident in snowy … Continue reading
MI: The officer’s contact with def alone in a “high crime” area wasn’t RS
The officer here approached defendant in his parked car in an apartment complex parking lot without reasonable suspicion to inquire of what he was doing there. That ultimately led to an assault charge. Summarily reversed and dismissed without argument: There … Continue reading
S.D.Ga.: State knock-and-announce statute, if it applies at all, doesn’t confer standing on an alleged guest
Plaintiff said she was an overnight guest at the house searched and thus had standing, except that was never proved. “None of those facts are present here, as there is no record evidence showing that James had personal belongings in … Continue reading
CA5: The fact the officer was in an interstate highway drug interdiction team was unavailing because there was a lawful basis for the stop
“Rocha Nevarez’s argument that the stop was unlawful from the start because the trooper was part of a roving drug interdiction team is unavailing. The state trooper witnessed Rocha Nevarez drift over the fog line on eastbound Interstate 20 on … Continue reading
D.N.M.: Summary judgment for defs denied in Torres v. Madrid on remand
On remand in Torres v. Madrid, 141 S. Ct. 989, 209 L.Ed.2d 190 (Mar. 25, 2021), the defendant’s summary judgment motion is denied. Torres v. Madrid, 2024 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 117079 (D.N.M. July 2, 2024).* An out-of-state temporary plate where … Continue reading
NC: Wife had sufficient common authority over cell phone to consent to seizure and search
Defendant allowed his cell phone to be used by everyone in the family, including his child to watch YouTube videos. His wife had sufficient common authority to consent to a seizure and search. State v. Duran-Rivas, 2024 N.C. App. LEXIS … Continue reading
D.N.J.: Car leasing company had no 4A claim to car’s lawful impoundment, despite not knowing for 11 months
Honda leased a car that was impounded and towed from the driver because it was unlicensed. Eleven months later Honda located the car and there were thousands of accumulated fees. Honda sued under § 1983. The initial seizure was valid … Continue reading
N.D.Ohio: When a stop is based on a law enforcement database, does reliability have to be shown? Here there was more
When a stop is based on a computerized law enforcement database, whether it has to be corroborated (see Gonzalez v. United States Immigration. & Customs Enf’t, 975 F.3d 788, 819 (9th Cir. 2020)) isn’t decided here because here there was … Continue reading
LA1: Opening car door to check for others after speeding stop was reasonable where windows were overtinted
Defendant was seen at 10 pm on radar going 94 in a 35, and the officer gave chase for over four miles, sometimes clocking defendant at 135. When finally stopped and with defendant in the police car, the officer went … Continue reading
D.Ariz.: “The standard for probable cause in forfeiture proceedings resembles that required to support a search warrant”
“‘The standard for probable cause in forfeiture proceedings resembles that required to support a search warrant. The determination of probable cause is based upon a “totality of the circumstances” test, and the government’s evidence must be more than that which … Continue reading
CT: Pretrial detainees still have no REP in jail calls
There is no constitutional distinction between pretrial detainees and convicts in a jail for the reasonable expectation of privacy in telephone calls on a jail line phone they knew was recorded. State v. Bember, 2024 Conn. LEXIS 153 (June 25, … Continue reading