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"Life is not a matter of holding good cards, but of playing a poor hand well."
–Josh Billings (pseudonym of Henry Wheeler Shaw), Josh Billings on Ice, and Other Things (1868) (erroneously attributed to Robert Louis Stevenson, among others) -
“I am still learning.”
—Domenico Giuntalodi (but misattributed to Michelangelo Buonarroti (common phrase throughout 1500's)). -
"Love work; hate mastery over others; and avoid intimacy with the government."
—Shemaya, in the Thalmud -
"It is a pleasant world we live in, sir, a very pleasant world. There are bad people in it, Mr. Richard, but if there were no bad people, there would be no good lawyers."
—Charles Dickens, “The Old Curiosity Shop ... With a Frontispiece. From a Painting by Geo. Cattermole, Etc.” 255 (1848) -
"A system of law that not only makes certain conduct criminal, but also lays down rules for the conduct of the authorities, often becomes complex in its application to individual cases, and will from time to time produce imperfect results, especially if one's attention is confined to the particular case at bar. Some criminals do go free because of the necessity of keeping government and its servants in their place. That is one of the costs of having and enforcing a Bill of Rights. This country is built on the assumption that the cost is worth paying, and that in the long run we are all both freer and safer if the Constitution is strictly enforced."
—Williams v. Nix, 700 F. 2d 1164, 1173 (8th Cir. 1983) (Richard Sheppard Arnold, J.), rev'd Nix v. Williams, 467 US. 431 (1984). -
"The criminal goes free, if he must, but it is the law that sets him free. Nothing can destroy a government more quickly than its failure to observe its own laws, or worse, its disregard of the charter of its own existence."
—Mapp v. Ohio, 367 U.S. 643, 659 (1961). -
"Any costs the exclusionary rule are costs imposed directly by the Fourth Amendment."
—Yale Kamisar, 86 Mich.L.Rev. 1, 36 n. 151 (1987). -
"There have been powerful hydraulic pressures throughout our history that bear heavily on the Court to water down constitutional guarantees and give the police the upper hand. That hydraulic pressure has probably never been greater than it is today."
— Terry v. Ohio, 392 U.S. 1, 39 (1968) (Douglas, J., dissenting). -
"The great end, for which men entered into society, was to secure their property."
—Entick v. Carrington, 19 How.St.Tr. 1029, 1066, 95 Eng. Rep. 807 (C.P. 1765) -
"It is a fair summary of history to say that the safeguards of liberty have frequently been forged in controversies involving not very nice people. And so, while we are concerned here with a shabby defrauder, we must deal with his case in the context of what are really the great themes expressed by the Fourth Amendment."
—United States v. Rabinowitz, 339 U.S. 56, 69 (1950) (Frankfurter, J., dissenting) -
"The course of true law pertaining to searches and seizures, as enunciated here, has not–to put it mildly–run smooth."
—Chapman v. United States, 365 U.S. 610, 618 (1961) (Frankfurter, J., concurring). -
"A search is a search, even if it happens to disclose nothing but the bottom of a turntable."
—Arizona v. Hicks, 480 U.S. 321, 325 (1987) -
"For the Fourth Amendment protects people, not places. What a person knowingly exposes to the public, even in his own home or office, is not a subject of Fourth Amendment protection. ... But what he seeks to preserve as private, even in an area accessible to the public, may be constitutionally protected."
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“Experience should teach us to be most on guard to protect liberty when the Government’s purposes are beneficent. Men born to freedom are naturally alert to repel invasion of their liberty by evil-minded
rulers. The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well-meaning but without understanding.”
—United States v. Olmstead, 277 U.S. 438, 479 (1925) (Brandeis, J., dissenting)
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“Liberty—the freedom from unwarranted intrusion by government—is as easily lost through insistent nibbles by government officials who seek to do their jobs too well as by those whose purpose it is to oppress; the piranha can be as deadly as the shark.”
—United States v. $124,570, 873 F.2d 1240, 1246 (9th Cir. 1989) -
"You can't always get what you want / But if you try sometimes / You just might find / You get what you need."
—Mick Jagger & Keith Richards, Let it Bleed (album, 1969) -
"In Germany, they first came for the communists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a communist. Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew. Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist. Then they came for
the Catholics and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Catholic. Then they came
for me–and by that time there was nobody left to speak up."
—Martin Niemöller (1945) [he served seven years in a concentration camp] -
“Children grow up thinking the adult world is ordered, rational, fit for purpose. It’s crap. Becoming a man is realising that it’s all rotten. Realising how to celebrate that rottenness, that’s freedom.”
– John le Carré, The Night Manager (1993), line by Richard Roper -
"The point of the Fourth Amendment, which often is not grasped by zealous officers, is not that it denies law enforcement the support of the usual inferences which reasonable men draw from evidence. Its protection consists in requiring that those inferences be drawn by a neutral and detached magistrate instead of being judged by the officer engaged in the often competitive enterprise of ferreting out crime."
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The book was dedicated in the first (1982) and sixth (2025) editions to Justin William Hall (1975-2025). He was three when this project started in 1978.
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Category Archives: Reasonable expectation of privacy
CA7: Franks does not apply to emergency cell phone pings
During the George Floyd murder unrest, defendant told an acquaintance he was traveling to Wisconsin with a machine gun to kill and loot. The acquaintance told law enforcement. They obtained ping information based on exigency, which was valid. Also, Franks … Continue reading
D.Mass.: No discovery of covert Shapchat accounts for lack of materiality
Officers set up covert Snapchat accounts to communicate with defendant. He’s not entitled to discovery about that for Brady or Franks purposes because he can’t show materiality. United States v. Stroup, 2024 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 132483 (D. Mass. July 26, … Continue reading
PIX11: NYC implements gun-detecting technology in subway
PIX11: NYC implements gun-detecting technology in subway by Finn Hoogensen:
Axios: A police drone might respond to your next 911
Axios: A police drone might respond to your next 911 by Joann Muller & Jessica Boehm(“A new generation of crime-fighting drones is about to take flight, starting in Arizona. Why it matters: Drones are the ultimate first responder. They can … Continue reading
E.D.La.: Fire dept. can compel fingerprinting of its firefighters
A fire department can compel production of fingerprints for timekeeping purposes from its firefighters under threat of termination. There is no reasonable expectation of privacy in fingerprints. Perre v. E. Bank Consol. Special Serv. Fire Prot., 2024 U.S. Dist. LEXIS … Continue reading
MS applies exclusionary rule to code enforcers
A code enforcement officer violated the Fourth Amendment and the exclusionary rule is applied. JDB Rentals, LLC v. City of Verona, 2024 Miss. App. LEXIS 290 (July 16, 2024). Defendant waived (or abandoned) any reasonable expectation of privacy in his … Continue reading
N.D.Cal.: No standing in ALPR info of car def didn’t drive
Defendant’s motion to suppress automated license plate reader (ALPR) data on the family car that he didn’t drive is denied for lack of standing. Also, the holder of the information was a third-party contractor. United States v. Butler, 2024 U.S. … Continue reading
D.Mass.: Passenger putting something under the seat shows no REP
A passenger putting something under the seat when in a car manifests no reasonable expectation of privacy and thus no standing. United States v. Dunnell, 2024 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 124927 (D. Mass. July 16, 2024). (Apparently one needs to keep … Continue reading
NM: 19-day delay getting a SW for a computer was reasonable considering the diminished possessory interest in it
“The district court concluded, after weighing Defendant’s diminished possessory interest in the tablet and the legitimate interests of law enforcement, that under the circumstances, the nineteen-day delay between when the tablet was seized and when a search warrant was obtained … Continue reading
CA4: No REP in one’s Google location data
There is no reasonable expectation of privacy in one’s Google location data. It’s willingly shared with Google. United States v. Chatrie, 2024 U.S. App. LEXIS 16692 (4th Cir. July 9, 2024) (2-1):
CA8: Breaking a cell phone to avoid its search and seizure justified obstruction enhancement under USSG § 3C1.1
Defendant attempting to thwart a search of cell phones in his car tried to break one such that it had to be forensically reviewed to get information off of it. He wasn’t under arrest. Still, his actions qualified for a … Continue reading
CA6: No REP from ATF getting access to def’s Instagram posts with false name
Defendant is a felon who posted to Instagram pictures of him firing guns. The ATF got access to his account, and he had no reasonable expectation of privacy in it, even where the ATF agent used a fake name to … Continue reading
CA10: No REP in fire scene premises totally destroyed
Taking of photographs of a fire scene of a mobile home that burned to the ground was not a Fourth Amendment violation. There was no reasonable expectation of privacy in the remains. United States v. Hernandez, 2024 U.S. App. LEXIS … Continue reading
Va. Lawyers Weekly: Automatic license plate reader data suppressed
Trial court order: Va. Lawyers Weekly: Automatic license plate reader data suppressed by Nick Hurston (“A trial court found that Norfolk’s newly installed automatic license plate reader, or ALPR, camera system constituted a Fourth Amendment search and granted a defendant’s … Continue reading
RI: REP in a police interrogation room when he was led to believe conversation with mother was private
Defendant had a reasonable expectation of privacy in a police interrogation room while he was talking to his mother under both the Fourth Amendment and the state constitution when he was led to believe it was private. “Finally, the state … Continue reading
D.Utah: License plate readers can’t be compared to CSLI
Automatic license plate readers showing points where a vehicle was located at various times can’t be compared to CSLI. The officers also had reasonable suspicion during this stop. It also did not violate state law. United States v. Salcido-Gonzalez, 2024 … Continue reading
IA: Court ordered privilege review of search was at its expense
When the court orders privilege review for the results of a search, it’s a court expense. State v. Iowa District Court for Emmet County, 2024 Iowa Sup. LEXIS 52 (May 10, 2024). “Lenhart does not assert fraud on the court, … Continue reading
CAAF: Service member has REP in a private barracks room because it was not shared with anyone else
A service member has a reasonable expectation of privacy in a private barracks room because it was not shared with anyone else. United States v. Rocha, 2024 CAAF LEXIS 250 (C.A.A.F. May 8, 2024) (not a Fourth Amendment search case). … Continue reading
FL3: Cell phone dump in civil case denied; no showing of need
In a civil case, the court granted a writ of certiorari against the trial court’s order permitting access to a party’s cell phone by forensic imaging. “We recognize, of course, that Swezy is not altogether foreclosed from seeking electronically stored … Continue reading