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"If it was easy, everybody would be doing it. It isn't, and they don't."
—Me -
"Life is not a matter of holding good cards, but of playing a poor hand well."
–Josh Billings (pseudonym of Henry Wheeler Shaw), Josh Billings on Ice, and Other Things (1868) (erroneously attributed to Robert Louis Stevenson, among others) -
“I am still learning.”
—Domenico Giuntalodi (but misattributed to Michelangelo Buonarroti (common phrase throughout 1500's)). -
"Love work; hate mastery over others; and avoid intimacy with the government."
—Shemaya, in the Thalmud -
"It is a pleasant world we live in, sir, a very pleasant world. There are bad people in it, Mr. Richard, but if there were no bad people, there would be no good lawyers."
—Charles Dickens, “The Old Curiosity Shop ... With a Frontispiece. From a Painting by Geo. Cattermole, Etc.” 255 (1848) -
"A system of law that not only makes certain conduct criminal, but also lays down rules for the conduct of the authorities, often becomes complex in its application to individual cases, and will from time to time produce imperfect results, especially if one's attention is confined to the particular case at bar. Some criminals do go free because of the necessity of keeping government and its servants in their place. That is one of the costs of having and enforcing a Bill of Rights. This country is built on the assumption that the cost is worth paying, and that in the long run we are all both freer and safer if the Constitution is strictly enforced."
—Williams v. Nix, 700 F. 2d 1164, 1173 (8th Cir. 1983) (Richard Sheppard Arnold, J.), rev'd Nix v. Williams, 467 US. 431 (1984). -
"The criminal goes free, if he must, but it is the law that sets him free. Nothing can destroy a government more quickly than its failure to observe its own laws, or worse, its disregard of the charter of its own existence."
—Mapp v. Ohio, 367 U.S. 643, 659 (1961). -
"Any costs the exclusionary rule are costs imposed directly by the Fourth Amendment."
—Yale Kamisar, 86 Mich.L.Rev. 1, 36 n. 151 (1987). -
"There have been powerful hydraulic pressures throughout our history that bear heavily on the Court to water down constitutional guarantees and give the police the upper hand. That hydraulic pressure has probably never been greater than it is today."
— Terry v. Ohio, 392 U.S. 1, 39 (1968) (Douglas, J., dissenting). -
"The great end, for which men entered into society, was to secure their property."
—Entick v. Carrington, 19 How.St.Tr. 1029, 1066, 95 Eng. Rep. 807 (C.P. 1765) -
"It is a fair summary of history to say that the safeguards of liberty have frequently been forged in controversies involving not very nice people. And so, while we are concerned here with a shabby defrauder, we must deal with his case in the context of what are really the great themes expressed by the Fourth Amendment."
—United States v. Rabinowitz, 339 U.S. 56, 69 (1950) (Frankfurter, J., dissenting) -
"The course of true law pertaining to searches and seizures, as enunciated here, has not–to put it mildly–run smooth."
—Chapman v. United States, 365 U.S. 610, 618 (1961) (Frankfurter, J., concurring). -
"A search is a search, even if it happens to disclose nothing but the bottom of a turntable."
—Arizona v. Hicks, 480 U.S. 321, 325 (1987) -
"For the Fourth Amendment protects people, not places. What a person knowingly exposes to the public, even in his own home or office, is not a subject of Fourth Amendment protection. ... But what he seeks to preserve as private, even in an area accessible to the public, may be constitutionally protected."
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“Experience should teach us to be most on guard to protect liberty when the Government’s purposes are beneficent. Men born to freedom are naturally alert to repel invasion of their liberty by evil-minded
rulers. The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well-meaning but without understanding.”
—United States v. Olmstead, 277 U.S. 438, 479 (1925) (Brandeis, J., dissenting)
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“Liberty—the freedom from unwarranted intrusion by government—is as easily lost through insistent nibbles by government officials who seek to do their jobs too well as by those whose purpose it is to oppress; the piranha can be as deadly as the shark.”
—United States v. $124,570, 873 F.2d 1240, 1246 (9th Cir. 1989) -
"You can't always get what you want / But if you try sometimes / You just might find / You get what you need."
—Mick Jagger & Keith Richards, Let it Bleed (album, 1969) -
"In Germany, they first came for the communists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a communist. Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew. Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist. Then they came for
the Catholics and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Catholic. Then they came
for me–and by that time there was nobody left to speak up."
—Martin Niemöller (1945) [he served seven years in a concentration camp] -
“Children grow up thinking the adult world is ordered, rational, fit for purpose. It’s crap. Becoming a man is realising that it’s all rotten. Realising how to celebrate that rottenness, that’s freedom.”
– John le Carré, The Night Manager (1993), line by Richard Roper -
"The point of the Fourth Amendment, which often is not grasped by zealous officers, is not that it denies law enforcement the support of the usual inferences which reasonable men draw from evidence. Its protection consists in requiring that those inferences be drawn by a neutral and detached magistrate instead of being judged by the officer engaged in the often competitive enterprise of ferreting out crime."
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The book was dedicated in the first (1982) and sixth (2025) editions to Justin William Hall (1975-2025). He was three when this project started in 1978.
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Monthly Archives: November 2024
AZ: A traffic offense could be used to stop defendant to question him about a fatal accident 11 days earlier
Defendant committed a traffic offense and was stopped. Officers had reasonable suspicion he left the scene of a fatal accident 11 days earlier, and officers wanted to talk to him about that. The stop was not pretextual because there was … Continue reading
W.D.Wash.: Not applying exclusionary rule here would put all at risk of police excessive searches
“Here, the Court finds that the officers did not unreasonably extend the scope or duration of the stop. The officers were permitted to ask basic questions of Mr. Russell, including whether he had identification or whether he had any weapons … Continue reading
OH4: Asking motorist about destination doesn’t measurably extend stop under Rodriguez
Asking a motorist about his or her destination during a traffic stop does not measurably extend the stop under Rodriguez. State v. Woods, 2024-Ohio-5301, 2024 Ohio App. LEXIS 3997 (4th Dist. Oct. 29, 2024). Similar: “Officers may question the driver … Continue reading
FL3: There is a lower expectation of privacy in a boat than in a car; stop for license, registration, and safety inspection was reasonable
“The [Florida Fish and Wildlife Commission officers] had authority to stop the boat to inspect licenses, registration, and safety equipment. State v. Casal, 410 So. 2d 152, 155 (Fla. 1982) (‘In sum we find that the state’s interest in random … Continue reading
S.D.Fla.: After first SW attacked, second SW supported by independent sources
When defendant filed a motion to suppress, the government sought a second search warrant for the same telephone not using the prior information. The USMJ holds the second warrant shows probable cause but the independent source doctrine not satisfied. On … Continue reading
OR: SW not particular for wholesale digital searches
The electronic search categories any digital storage devices in this search warrant are not particular under the state constitution. Remanded for determination of remedy. State v. Curry, 336 Or. App. 72 (Nov. 6, 2024):
FL1: Lack of candor in appeal brief earns admonition
Affirmed per curiam. The concurring opinion: The facts concerning the stop and search in the appeal brief demonstrate a serious lack of candor which the state didn’t even challenge. All counsel included was his cross-examination and omitted the state’s direct … Continue reading
E.D.Va.: Govt showed exigency for access to public Facebook messages in terrorism investigation
The court assumes defendant had a reasonable expectation of privacy in his private Facebook messages, but holds he did not in his non-private ones. Still, the government successfully argued that it had exigent circumstances for Facebook to reveal messages under … Continue reading
W.D.Pa.: Use of coarse language during prison strip search didn’t make it unreasonable
Prison strip search was not unconstitutional. “Shepard has failed to allege facts to support that the November 2022 search was unreasonable. She acknowledges that such searches are routinely conducted before an inmate leaves the correctional institution for outside medical appointments. … Continue reading
MO: Def’s attempts to block the officer’s view of the interior of his car was RS
Defendant’s attempts to block the officer’s view of the interior of his car was reasonable suspicion. State v. Thomas, 2024 Mo. LEXIS 335 (Nov. 5, 2024):
S.D.Fla.: Raid on a business alleged to be retaliation for political speech survives motion to dismiss
A warrantless raid on a business alleged to have a First Amendment political retaliatory motive survives a motion to dismiss. “Taking the Complaint’s allegations as true, we think that Hernandez’s organizing a raid of Bellas to suppress political speech—‘actions reminiscent … Continue reading
CA7: 13 months of pole camera surveillance was not unreasonable
Thirteen months of pole camera surveillance of the public areas outside defendant’s home were reasonable under United States v. Tuggle, 4 F.4th 505, 511 (7th Cir. 2021), and the court declines to reconsider that case. The officers saw no more … Continue reading
D.Utah: Positive CODIS hit justifies SW for DNA for confirmation
“Contrary to Defendant’s view, the positive CODIS hit did not ‘only amount[] to an investigative lead at best ….’ It is well-established that a blood match from a reputable, national database that links a defendant to a crime scene establishes … Continue reading
techdirt: Fourth Circuit Appeals Court Announces It’s Going To Rethink Its Geofence Warrant Decision — Chatrie
techdirt: Fourth Circuit Appeals Court Announces It’s Going To Rethink Its Geofence Warrant Decision by Tim Cushing, noted here.
D.Alaska: Unsigned SW affidavit still in GF where officer was sworn
The affidavit for warrant was unsigned by the officer but he had been sworn before the warrant issued. The good faith exception saves this search. United States v. Hampton, 2024 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 200326 (D. Alaska Nov. 4, 2024) Defendant’s … Continue reading
Reason: Cop who fired blindly into Breonna Taylor’s home is convicted of violating her constitutional rights
Reason: Cop who fired blindly into Breonna Taylor’s home is convicted of violating her constitutional rights by Jacob Sullum (“Former Louisville detective Brett Hankison was convicted of violating Taylor’s Fourth Amendment rights during the deadly 2020 raid.”):
E.D.Pa.: Remedy for illegal search is to move to suppress, not to dismiss the case
A ground to suppress a search belongs in a motion to suppress, not to dismiss the indictment. United States v. Bailey, 2024 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 198707 (E.D. Pa. Oct. 31, 2024). The search warrant didn’t provide the address of the … Continue reading
IN: Search of passenger’s bag in car before handing it over so he could leave was reasonable when there was PC as to the car
After a traffic stop of a rental vehicle produced a marijuana smell, the driver and passenger were detained. The passenger was shortly let go and asked for his bag from the car. The officer’s search of the bag before handing … Continue reading
Immigration: Administrative Arrest Warrants: Armed Encounters Outside the Judicial Process
Administrative Arrest Warrants: Armed Encounters Outside the Judicial Process by Meg Mary Margaret Penrose, 33 Cornell J. L. & Pub. Pol. 389-435 (2024):
D.D.C.: Seizure of def’s car keys from his friend was without PC
“The seizure of the keys from Williams’s friend was unlawful because the officers did not have probable cause to believe that the keys were evidence of a crime and the plain view doctrine did not apply.” Motion to suppress granted … Continue reading