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"Life is not a matter of holding good cards, but of playing a poor hand well."
–Josh Billings (pseudonym of Henry Wheeler Shaw), Josh Billings on Ice, and Other Things (1868) (erroneously attributed to Robert Louis Stevenson, among others) -
“I am still learning.”
—Domenico Giuntalodi (but misattributed to Michelangelo Buonarroti (common phrase throughout 1500's)). -
"Love work; hate mastery over others; and avoid intimacy with the government."
—Shemaya, in the Thalmud -
"It is a pleasant world we live in, sir, a very pleasant world. There are bad people in it, Mr. Richard, but if there were no bad people, there would be no good lawyers."
—Charles Dickens, “The Old Curiosity Shop ... With a Frontispiece. From a Painting by Geo. Cattermole, Etc.” 255 (1848) -
"A system of law that not only makes certain conduct criminal, but also lays down rules for the conduct of the authorities, often becomes complex in its application to individual cases, and will from time to time produce imperfect results, especially if one's attention is confined to the particular case at bar. Some criminals do go free because of the necessity of keeping government and its servants in their place. That is one of the costs of having and enforcing a Bill of Rights. This country is built on the assumption that the cost is worth paying, and that in the long run we are all both freer and safer if the Constitution is strictly enforced."
—Williams v. Nix, 700 F. 2d 1164, 1173 (8th Cir. 1983) (Richard Sheppard Arnold, J.), rev'd Nix v. Williams, 467 US. 431 (1984). -
"The criminal goes free, if he must, but it is the law that sets him free. Nothing can destroy a government more quickly than its failure to observe its own laws, or worse, its disregard of the charter of its own existence."
—Mapp v. Ohio, 367 U.S. 643, 659 (1961). -
"Any costs the exclusionary rule are costs imposed directly by the Fourth Amendment."
—Yale Kamisar, 86 Mich.L.Rev. 1, 36 n. 151 (1987). -
"There have been powerful hydraulic pressures throughout our history that bear heavily on the Court to water down constitutional guarantees and give the police the upper hand. That hydraulic pressure has probably never been greater than it is today."
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"The great end, for which men entered into society, was to secure their property."
—Entick v. Carrington, 19 How.St.Tr. 1029, 1066, 95 Eng. Rep. 807 (C.P. 1765) -
"It is a fair summary of history to say that the safeguards of liberty have frequently been forged in controversies involving not very nice people. And so, while we are concerned here with a shabby defrauder, we must deal with his case in the context of what are really the great themes expressed by the Fourth Amendment."
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"The course of true law pertaining to searches and seizures, as enunciated here, has not–to put it mildly–run smooth."
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"A search is a search, even if it happens to disclose nothing but the bottom of a turntable."
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"For the Fourth Amendment protects people, not places. What a person knowingly exposes to the public, even in his own home or office, is not a subject of Fourth Amendment protection. ... But what he seeks to preserve as private, even in an area accessible to the public, may be constitutionally protected."
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“Experience should teach us to be most on guard to protect liberty when the Government’s purposes are beneficent. Men born to freedom are naturally alert to repel invasion of their liberty by evil-minded
rulers. The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well-meaning but without understanding.”
—United States v. Olmstead, 277 U.S. 438, 479 (1925) (Brandeis, J., dissenting)
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“Liberty—the freedom from unwarranted intrusion by government—is as easily lost through insistent nibbles by government officials who seek to do their jobs too well as by those whose purpose it is to oppress; the piranha can be as deadly as the shark.”
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"You can't always get what you want / But if you try sometimes / You just might find / You get what you need."
—Mick Jagger & Keith Richards, Let it Bleed (album, 1969) -
"In Germany, they first came for the communists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a communist. Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew. Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist. Then they came for
the Catholics and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Catholic. Then they came
for me–and by that time there was nobody left to speak up."
—Martin Niemöller (1945) [he served seven years in a concentration camp] -
“Children grow up thinking the adult world is ordered, rational, fit for purpose. It’s crap. Becoming a man is realising that it’s all rotten. Realising how to celebrate that rottenness, that’s freedom.”
– John le Carré, The Night Manager (1993), line by Richard Roper -
"The point of the Fourth Amendment, which often is not grasped by zealous officers, is not that it denies law enforcement the support of the usual inferences which reasonable men draw from evidence. Its protection consists in requiring that those inferences be drawn by a neutral and detached magistrate instead of being judged by the officer engaged in the often competitive enterprise of ferreting out crime."
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The book was dedicated in the first (1982) and sixth (2025) editions to Justin William Hall (1975-2025). He was three when this project started in 1978.
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Category Archives: Reasonable suspicion
SD: PC for drugs as to driver extends to passenger’s purse
Once there was probable cause to search a vehicle because of what was on the driver, there was also probable cause to search the purse of his passenger. State v. Edwards, 2024 S.D. 62, 2024 S.D. LEXIS 136 (Oct. 16, … Continue reading
D.Minn.: While def was a passenger in a van, it was transporting his stuff, so he had standing
Defendant was a passenger in a van owned by a family member and transporting his stuff. He had standing to challenge the stop and detention. The stop was admittedly valid, and the extension of 15 minutes was based on reasonable … Continue reading
W.D.Ark.: State remedy for return of property bars § 1983 claim for it
Plaintiff’s § 1983 suit for return of property is denied because there is a state law remedy, even if a federal claim was barred by Heck. Owens v. Samuel, 2024 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 189894 (W.D. Ark. Sep. 24, 2024), adopted, … Continue reading
M.D.Ga.: Cell phone search started before SW’s completion date isn’t unreasonable
The fact execution of the warrant on defendant’s cell phone took longer than the time limitation in the warrant doesn’t justify suppression if the search process started before its expiration. United States v. Hewlett, 2024 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 189371 (M.D. … Continue reading
N.D.Ga.: Opening car door during stop requires RS
Opening a car door during a traffic stop requires reasonable suspicion and is governed by Terry. On the totality, officers had it based on a detailed BOLO. United States v. Crumbley, 2024 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 189567 (N.D. Ga. Oct. 18, … Continue reading
AZ: ALPR info from DEA could contribute to RS
A state officer running defendant’s car’s LPN through DEASIL (Drug Enforcement Agency Special Intelligence Link) showing its movements can contribute to reasonable suspicion. (Here, the vehicle was on a drug courier route twice before.) Also, defendant borrowed the car for … Continue reading
D.Colo.: Failure to produce paperwork promptly justifies an extension of the stop
Defendant’s failure to promptly produce the insurance information and registration on his car justified ordering him out of the car and reasonably extended the stop. United States v. Malone, 2024 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 188452 (D. Colo. Oct. 16, 2024).* 2254 … Continue reading
M.D.Fla.: T.L.O. informs the use of handcuffs in school v. excessive force
T.L.O. informs the use of handcuffs in school v. excessive force. Here, the student was objectively enough of a safety risk to justify handcuffs. “Further, because the Fourth Amendment reasonableness inquiry is an objective standard, more discovery to determine Defendants’ … Continue reading
IA: When there’s PC and the automobile exception, inventory irrelevant
There was probable cause for search of the car under the automobile exception so the impoundment and inventory are irrelevant. State v. Baylor, 2024 Iowa App. LEXIS 740 (Oct. 16, 2024).* Defendant’s car was parked with lights on at night … Continue reading
CA3: Collective knowledge applies to reasons to extend a stop
With collective knowledge there was reason to extend the stop. United States v. McAliley, 2024 U.S. App. LEXIS 25982 (3d Cir. Oct. 15, 2024).* (After all, collective knowledge applies to reasonable suspicion too.) The USMJ’s decision denying the motion to … Continue reading
D.Minn.: State law permits POs to conduct “unannounced visits” and that includes unannounced warrantless searches
State law gives parole officers the power to conduct “unannounced visits.” They also don’t have to announce warrantless searches. United States v. McClendon, 2024 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 186498 (D. Minn. Aug. 15, 2024).* Defendant’s trembling hands were enough to pass … Continue reading
OH: Even when the driver isn’t the owner with a suspended DL, it’s not unreasonable to ask for his DL
The stop was because the vehicle owner had an expired DL. When the officer discovers the driver is not the owner, the officer does not act unreasonably in asking for the driver’s DL. State v. Dunlap, 2024-Ohio-4821, 2024 Ohio LEXIS … Continue reading
S.D.W.Va.: Reasonable during a traffic stop to ask about firearms in the car
The traffic stop was reasonable, and it was also reasonable for the officer to just ask whether there was a gun in the car for safety reasons because carrying in legal in this state. United States v. Martin, 2024 U.S. … Continue reading
UT: NCMEC didn’t look at the CP this time, but it had this case, and that’s enough
The fact the hash value of defendant’s material was known to be child pornography, it didn’t matter that NCMEC didn’t view the material before passing it on to the police who did. There was a prior private search. State v. … Continue reading
NY1: Vehicle being involved in recent prior crime was RS for stop
There was reasonable suspicion for the stop of defendant’s car just because the police had information that the car had previously been involved in a potential crime. People v. Zubidi, 2024 NY Slip Op 04824, 2024 N.Y. App. Div. LEXIS … Continue reading
OH1: “Suspicious vehicle” report didn’t justify stop when it drove off as officers were looking at it
Officers had a report of a suspicious vehicle on an apartment complex parking lot. They stopped and shined lights on it and looked. After about a minute, the vehicle drove off. The stop was without reasonable suspicion and was a … Continue reading
AK: Exclusionary rule doesn’t apply in civil cases
The exclusionary rule doesn’t apply in civil cases in Alaska. Alaska R.E. 412. O’Brien v. Delaplain, 2024 Alas. LEXIS 99 n.35(Sep. 27, 2024). The officer’s observations on a table near the door from outside the dwelling during a knock-and-talk provided … Continue reading
NE: Not IAC to not challenge state’s obtaining phone records
It was settled in this state long ago that there is no reasonable expectation of privacy in third-party cell phone records. Therefore, defense counsel wasn’t ineffective for not challenging it. State v. Rush, 317 Neb. 622 (Sep. 20, 2024).* On … Continue reading