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"If it was easy, everybody would be doing it. It isn't, and they don't."
—Me -
"Life is not a matter of holding good cards, but of playing a poor hand well."
–Josh Billings (pseudonym of Henry Wheeler Shaw), Josh Billings on Ice, and Other Things (1868) (erroneously attributed to Robert Louis Stevenson, among others) -
“I am still learning.”
—Domenico Giuntalodi (but misattributed to Michelangelo Buonarroti (common phrase throughout 1500's)). -
"Love work; hate mastery over others; and avoid intimacy with the government."
—Shemaya, in the Thalmud -
"It is a pleasant world we live in, sir, a very pleasant world. There are bad people in it, Mr. Richard, but if there were no bad people, there would be no good lawyers."
—Charles Dickens, “The Old Curiosity Shop ... With a Frontispiece. From a Painting by Geo. Cattermole, Etc.” 255 (1848) -
"A system of law that not only makes certain conduct criminal, but also lays down rules for the conduct of the authorities, often becomes complex in its application to individual cases, and will from time to time produce imperfect results, especially if one's attention is confined to the particular case at bar. Some criminals do go free because of the necessity of keeping government and its servants in their place. That is one of the costs of having and enforcing a Bill of Rights. This country is built on the assumption that the cost is worth paying, and that in the long run we are all both freer and safer if the Constitution is strictly enforced."
—Williams v. Nix, 700 F. 2d 1164, 1173 (8th Cir. 1983) (Richard Sheppard Arnold, J.), rev'd Nix v. Williams, 467 US. 431 (1984). -
"The criminal goes free, if he must, but it is the law that sets him free. Nothing can destroy a government more quickly than its failure to observe its own laws, or worse, its disregard of the charter of its own existence."
—Mapp v. Ohio, 367 U.S. 643, 659 (1961). -
"Any costs the exclusionary rule are costs imposed directly by the Fourth Amendment."
—Yale Kamisar, 86 Mich.L.Rev. 1, 36 n. 151 (1987). -
"There have been powerful hydraulic pressures throughout our history that bear heavily on the Court to water down constitutional guarantees and give the police the upper hand. That hydraulic pressure has probably never been greater than it is today."
— Terry v. Ohio, 392 U.S. 1, 39 (1968) (Douglas, J., dissenting). -
"The great end, for which men entered into society, was to secure their property."
—Entick v. Carrington, 19 How.St.Tr. 1029, 1066, 95 Eng. Rep. 807 (C.P. 1765) -
"It is a fair summary of history to say that the safeguards of liberty have frequently been forged in controversies involving not very nice people. And so, while we are concerned here with a shabby defrauder, we must deal with his case in the context of what are really the great themes expressed by the Fourth Amendment."
—United States v. Rabinowitz, 339 U.S. 56, 69 (1950) (Frankfurter, J., dissenting) -
"The course of true law pertaining to searches and seizures, as enunciated here, has not–to put it mildly–run smooth."
—Chapman v. United States, 365 U.S. 610, 618 (1961) (Frankfurter, J., concurring). -
"A search is a search, even if it happens to disclose nothing but the bottom of a turntable."
—Arizona v. Hicks, 480 U.S. 321, 325 (1987) -
"For the Fourth Amendment protects people, not places. What a person knowingly exposes to the public, even in his own home or office, is not a subject of Fourth Amendment protection. ... But what he seeks to preserve as private, even in an area accessible to the public, may be constitutionally protected."
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“Experience should teach us to be most on guard to protect liberty when the Government’s purposes are beneficent. Men born to freedom are naturally alert to repel invasion of their liberty by evil-minded
rulers. The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well-meaning but without understanding.”
—United States v. Olmstead, 277 U.S. 438, 479 (1925) (Brandeis, J., dissenting)
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“Liberty—the freedom from unwarranted intrusion by government—is as easily lost through insistent nibbles by government officials who seek to do their jobs too well as by those whose purpose it is to oppress; the piranha can be as deadly as the shark.”
—United States v. $124,570, 873 F.2d 1240, 1246 (9th Cir. 1989) -
"You can't always get what you want / But if you try sometimes / You just might find / You get what you need."
—Mick Jagger & Keith Richards, Let it Bleed (album, 1969) -
"In Germany, they first came for the communists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a communist. Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew. Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist. Then they came for
the Catholics and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Catholic. Then they came
for me–and by that time there was nobody left to speak up."
—Martin Niemöller (1945) [he served seven years in a concentration camp] -
“Children grow up thinking the adult world is ordered, rational, fit for purpose. It’s crap. Becoming a man is realising that it’s all rotten. Realising how to celebrate that rottenness, that’s freedom.”
– John le Carré, The Night Manager (1993), line by Richard Roper -
"The point of the Fourth Amendment, which often is not grasped by zealous officers, is not that it denies law enforcement the support of the usual inferences which reasonable men draw from evidence. Its protection consists in requiring that those inferences be drawn by a neutral and detached magistrate instead of being judged by the officer engaged in the often competitive enterprise of ferreting out crime."
—Johnson v. United States, 333 U.S. 10, 13-14 (1948) -
The book was dedicated in the first (1982) and sixth (2025) editions to Justin William Hall (1975-2025). He was three when this project started in 1978.
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Category Archives: Reasonable suspicion
W.D.Mich.: Search and seizure Brady, even if there was one, wouldn’t change the outcome
Defendant makes a 2255 Brady claim about the information for his search and seizure. But, it doesn’t change the outcome. “Defendant fails to explain, and the Court fails to discern, how inclusion of the information Defendant sets forth in support … Continue reading
Leftovers
2255 petitioner fails to show grounds for a CoA from his search claims, without telling us the rationale. United States v. Renteria, 2024 U.S. App. LEXIS 30239 (5th Cir. Nov. 26, 2024).* Defendant’s stop and frisk was without reasonable suspicion. … Continue reading
OH12: Stop for riding bicycle in center of road led to RS for frisk
Defendant’s stop was for riding a bicycle in the center of the road, but when finally stopped, he had a large sheathed knife on him, and that justified a frisk. State v. Hayes, 2024-Ohio-5545 (12th Dist. Nov. 25, 2024).* “Defendant … Continue reading
CA6: Defense counsel not ineffective for not forecasting Carpenter three years early
Defense counsel wasn’t ineffective for not forecasting Carpenter years before it was decided. Cooper v. United States, 2024 U.S. App. LEXIS 29853 (6th Cir. Nov. 22, 2024).* Defendant was on parole for a child exploitation offense, and he was polygraphed … Continue reading
OH1: Smoking MJ in public and jaywalking was RS for a patdown
“Mr. King challenges the foundation for the Terry stop, emphasizing that smoking marijuana in public and jaywalking are not arrestable offenses. True enough, but officers can issue tickets for both offenses. Cincinnati Mun.Code § 506-46 and 512-1; R.C. 3780.99(B). And … Continue reading
D.Alaska: No REP in cell of 48 hr detainee
A 48 hour pretrial detainee in a dry cell has no reasonable expectation of privacy. United States v. Burk, 2024 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 209407 (D. Alaska Nov. 18, 2024).* Defendant’s Franks officer of proof with a proffered corrected affidavit for … Continue reading
D.Mont.: Off-roading during fire restriction was RS
Reasonable suspicion and a park violation: “Accordingly, Sergeant Call’s 11 years of experience in Park County coupled with his knowledge of state and county law gave him reason to suspect that Mitchell was potentially engaged in criminal conduct—namely, trespassing and … Continue reading
CA6: A rarity: No RS found for dog sniff on the highway
Defendant was stopped for speeding, and the officer ultimately called for a drug dog. No drugs, but he’s a felon in possession. The court finds no reasonable suspicion for extending the stop. The government proffered travel plans, criminal history, and … Continue reading
E.D.Va.: The affiant’s passing on alleged exaggerations from other officers wasn’t material to PC
Relying on reports of other officers that could have been exaggerations in part didn’t show that the affiant was intentionally or recklessly misleading the court. Also, “the Defendant has failed to demonstrate that Officer Granville’s inclusion of the exaggerated statement … Continue reading
N.D.Cal.: Slow walked traffic detention became unreasonable
The officer slow walked “what should have been a brief detention” and can’t rely on its “attempt to characterize the situation as an evolving [which] one misses the mark.” United States v. Davis, 2024 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 207203 (N.D. Cal. … Continue reading
KY: Warrant on passenger ordered from car was attenuated circumstance
Although officers lacked reasonable articulable suspicion to detain the vehicle occupants, the attenuation doctrine applied because the temporal proximity between the illegal seizure and discovery of evidence was short but not dispositive. The existence of an outstanding warrant for a … Continue reading
CA3: Handcuffed detainee can still be frisked with RS
Just because a detainee is handcuffed, the potential threat hasn’t abated, and a frisk can occur. United States v. Jackson, 2024 U.S. App. LEXIS 28229 (3d Cir. Nov. 6, 2024). The affidavit for the warrant for defendant’s home was based … Continue reading
OH4: Asking motorist about destination doesn’t measurably extend stop under Rodriguez
Asking a motorist about his or her destination during a traffic stop does not measurably extend the stop under Rodriguez. State v. Woods, 2024-Ohio-5301, 2024 Ohio App. LEXIS 3997 (4th Dist. Oct. 29, 2024). Similar: “Officers may question the driver … Continue reading
MO: Def’s attempts to block the officer’s view of the interior of his car was RS
Defendant’s attempts to block the officer’s view of the interior of his car was reasonable suspicion. State v. Thomas, 2024 Mo. LEXIS 335 (Nov. 5, 2024):
S.D.Fla.: Raid on a business alleged to be retaliation for political speech survives motion to dismiss
A warrantless raid on a business alleged to have a First Amendment political retaliatory motive survives a motion to dismiss. “Taking the Complaint’s allegations as true, we think that Hernandez’s organizing a raid of Bellas to suppress political speech—‘actions reminiscent … Continue reading
D.Alaska: Unsigned SW affidavit still in GF where officer was sworn
The affidavit for warrant was unsigned by the officer but he had been sworn before the warrant issued. The good faith exception saves this search. United States v. Hampton, 2024 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 200326 (D. Alaska Nov. 4, 2024) Defendant’s … Continue reading
TX12: Texas livestock officer lacked general law enforcement powers
A special ranger employed by the Texas & Southwest Cattle Raisers Association (TSCRA) recognized as part of the Texas DPS held himself out to be a law enforcement officer. Special rangers are limited to livestock and limited offenses. Instead, he … Continue reading