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"The criminal goes free, if he must, but it is the law that sets him free. Nothing can destroy a government more quickly than its failure to observe its own laws, or worse, its disregard of the charter of its own existence."
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"Any costs the exclusionary rule are costs imposed directly by the Fourth Amendment."
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"There have been powerful hydraulic pressures throughout our history that bear heavily on the Court to water down constitutional guarantees and give the police the upper hand. That hydraulic pressure has probably never been greater than it is today."
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"It is a fair summary of history to say that the safeguards of liberty have frequently been forged in controversies involving not very nice people. And so, while we are concerned here with a shabby defrauder, we must deal with his case in the context of what are really the great themes expressed by the Fourth Amendment."
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"The point of the Fourth Amendment, which often is not grasped by zealous officers, is not that it denies law enforcement the support of the usual inferences which reasonable men draw from evidence. Its protection consists in requiring that those inferences be drawn by a neutral and detached magistrate instead of being judged by the officer engaged in the often competitive enterprise of ferreting out crime."
—Johnson v. United States, 333 U.S. 10, 13-14 (1948)
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Category Archives: Knock and talk
MI: Nighttime entry onto curtilage was reasonable because officers were responding to a dangerous situation
Officers approached defendant’s house for a knock-and-talk at 10:43 pm. There is no implied license to enter the curtilage at that time, but here it was because officers were responding to a report of a dangerous situation, and that made … Continue reading
NC: Knock-and-talk led to smell of MJ and attempt to bar the door, and that was exigency
The officer came to defendant’s door for a knock-and-talk about marijuana sales, and, when the door was opened, he could smell marijuana. Defendant shut the door and attempted to put a bar up to block access, and that was all … Continue reading
OR: Backpack’s inventory on admission to treatment facility was reasonable
Police could inventory defendant’s backpack when he was picked up and transported to a treatment facility. Inventory was provided for by local ordinance. The same policies apply to inventory even if defendant isn’t in jail. State v. Wilcox, 335 Or … Continue reading
AK: Exclusionary rule doesn’t apply in civil cases
The exclusionary rule doesn’t apply in civil cases in Alaska. Alaska R.E. 412. O’Brien v. Delaplain, 2024 Alas. LEXIS 99 n.35(Sep. 27, 2024). The officer’s observations on a table near the door from outside the dwelling during a knock-and-talk provided … Continue reading
CA11: Failure to object to USMJ’s 4A analysis in R&R is waiver
Failure to object to the U.S. Magistrate Judge’s factual and legal conclusions on the search claim in the R&R is waiver. Thus he “waived his right to appeal the conclusions in the R&R.” Summarily affirmed. United States v. Kelly, 2024 … Continue reading
D.N.J.: Expert saying drug dog not reliable not a Franks issue
Defendant’s expert report that the drug dog here wasn’t reliable doesn’t make a Franks challenge. Besides, there was good faith as to it. United States v. Estevez-Castillo, 2023 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 221601 (D.N.J. Dec. 13, 2023). That officers created the … Continue reading
M.D.Ga.: Knock and talk limited to area immediately adjacent to front door
“The knock and talk exception has two limitations: (1) it is geographically limited to the front door or a ‘minor departure’ from it. … And (2) it no longer applies if an officer’s behavior ‘objectively reveals a purpose to conduct … Continue reading
E.D.Tex.: Pretextual claim of emergency aid exception to conduct a drug search leads to suppression
Defendant was having a seizure in his underwear on the street, about two blocks from his home. Officers could tell the smell of PCP about him. Officers went to his house and the door was cracked. Looking through the door, … Continue reading
Bloomberg Law: Supreme Court Passes on Police ‘Knock and Talk’ Arrest Challenge
Bloomberg Law: Supreme Court Passes on Police ‘Knock and Talk’ Arrest Challenge (“The US Supreme Court rejected a case challenging the power police have to detain people during so-called ‘knock and talk’ investigations. The justices decided on Monday not to … Continue reading
ND: Opening door of a parked and running semi when driver didn’t wake up was to gather information and was unreasonable
“Thus, we conclude law enforcement was acting outside the scope of the community caretaking function when opening the semi door and stepping onto the running boards in an attempt to gather information without first attempting to get a response from … Continue reading
E.D.Tenn.: Backyard firepit was part of curtilage
A firepit in defendant’s yard (an “outdoor living area”) was part of the curtilage. The officer, however, was lawfully on the curtilage for a knock-and-talk. United States v. Thurman, 2023 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 9358 (E.D. Tenn. Jan. 19, 2023).* Sometimes … Continue reading
CA4: Def’s Facebook post and demeanor justified stop-and-frisk
Defendant’s Facebook post and his past supported reasonable suspicion for his stop and frisk of his fanny pack at a fair. He was a known member of a violent gang with a felony conviction, his house had been recently shot … Continue reading
M.D.Ga.: Dropping cell phone in flight from wrecked car is abandonment
A series of alleged crimes and other actions of the defendant was probable cause to search defendant’s phone found in his car. [There is no nexus to the crimes mentioned in the opinion, so I submit it’s wrong on this … Continue reading
OH1: GPS pings on stolen vehicle led to attempted knock-and-talk and observation of its tracks
Officers following a GPS ping on stolen vehicle with off-road tires came to defendant’s home for a knock-and-talk. Receiving no answer, the officer followed the driveway and saw three storage buildings. “Because the driveway is open to the public and … Continue reading
GA: Even if knock-and-talk was valid, expanding entry onto the curtilage wasn’t
The knock-and-talk here was reasonable in its inception, but the officer violated the curtilage by inspecting a car parked there. The state’s argument that reasonable suspicion permitted approaching the car was not raised below so it’s waived. “Furthermore, even if … Continue reading
N.D.Tex.: Knock-and-talk led to a consent search
Defendant’s knock-and-talk led to a consent search. “Courts consider six primary factors to determine whether consent to a search is knowing and voluntary: (1) the voluntariness of the defendant’s custodial status; (2) presence of coercive police procedures; (3) the extent … Continue reading