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"If it was easy, everybody would be doing it. It isn't, and they don't."
—Me -
"Life is not a matter of holding good cards, but of playing a poor hand well."
–Josh Billings (pseudonym of Henry Wheeler Shaw), Josh Billings on Ice, and Other Things (1868) (erroneously attributed to Robert Louis Stevenson, among others) -
“I am still learning.”
—Domenico Giuntalodi (but misattributed to Michelangelo Buonarroti (common phrase throughout 1500's)). -
"Love work; hate mastery over others; and avoid intimacy with the government."
—Shemaya, in the Thalmud -
"It is a pleasant world we live in, sir, a very pleasant world. There are bad people in it, Mr. Richard, but if there were no bad people, there would be no good lawyers."
—Charles Dickens, “The Old Curiosity Shop ... With a Frontispiece. From a Painting by Geo. Cattermole, Etc.” 255 (1848) -
"A system of law that not only makes certain conduct criminal, but also lays down rules for the conduct of the authorities, often becomes complex in its application to individual cases, and will from time to time produce imperfect results, especially if one's attention is confined to the particular case at bar. Some criminals do go free because of the necessity of keeping government and its servants in their place. That is one of the costs of having and enforcing a Bill of Rights. This country is built on the assumption that the cost is worth paying, and that in the long run we are all both freer and safer if the Constitution is strictly enforced."
—Williams v. Nix, 700 F. 2d 1164, 1173 (8th Cir. 1983) (Richard Sheppard Arnold, J.), rev'd Nix v. Williams, 467 US. 431 (1984). -
"The criminal goes free, if he must, but it is the law that sets him free. Nothing can destroy a government more quickly than its failure to observe its own laws, or worse, its disregard of the charter of its own existence."
—Mapp v. Ohio, 367 U.S. 643, 659 (1961). -
"Any costs the exclusionary rule are costs imposed directly by the Fourth Amendment."
—Yale Kamisar, 86 Mich.L.Rev. 1, 36 n. 151 (1987). -
"There have been powerful hydraulic pressures throughout our history that bear heavily on the Court to water down constitutional guarantees and give the police the upper hand. That hydraulic pressure has probably never been greater than it is today."
— Terry v. Ohio, 392 U.S. 1, 39 (1968) (Douglas, J., dissenting). -
"The great end, for which men entered into society, was to secure their property."
—Entick v. Carrington, 19 How.St.Tr. 1029, 1066, 95 Eng. Rep. 807 (C.P. 1765) -
"It is a fair summary of history to say that the safeguards of liberty have frequently been forged in controversies involving not very nice people. And so, while we are concerned here with a shabby defrauder, we must deal with his case in the context of what are really the great themes expressed by the Fourth Amendment."
—United States v. Rabinowitz, 339 U.S. 56, 69 (1950) (Frankfurter, J., dissenting) -
"The course of true law pertaining to searches and seizures, as enunciated here, has not–to put it mildly–run smooth."
—Chapman v. United States, 365 U.S. 610, 618 (1961) (Frankfurter, J., concurring). -
"A search is a search, even if it happens to disclose nothing but the bottom of a turntable."
—Arizona v. Hicks, 480 U.S. 321, 325 (1987) -
"For the Fourth Amendment protects people, not places. What a person knowingly exposes to the public, even in his own home or office, is not a subject of Fourth Amendment protection. ... But what he seeks to preserve as private, even in an area accessible to the public, may be constitutionally protected."
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“Experience should teach us to be most on guard to protect liberty when the Government’s purposes are beneficent. Men born to freedom are naturally alert to repel invasion of their liberty by evil-minded
rulers. The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well-meaning but without understanding.”
—United States v. Olmstead, 277 U.S. 438, 479 (1925) (Brandeis, J., dissenting)
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“Liberty—the freedom from unwarranted intrusion by government—is as easily lost through insistent nibbles by government officials who seek to do their jobs too well as by those whose purpose it is to oppress; the piranha can be as deadly as the shark.”
—United States v. $124,570, 873 F.2d 1240, 1246 (9th Cir. 1989) -
"You can't always get what you want / But if you try sometimes / You just might find / You get what you need."
—Mick Jagger & Keith Richards, Let it Bleed (album, 1969) -
"In Germany, they first came for the communists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a communist. Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew. Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist. Then they came for
the Catholics and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Catholic. Then they came
for me–and by that time there was nobody left to speak up."
—Martin Niemöller (1945) [he served seven years in a concentration camp] -
“Children grow up thinking the adult world is ordered, rational, fit for purpose. It’s crap. Becoming a man is realising that it’s all rotten. Realising how to celebrate that rottenness, that’s freedom.”
– John le Carré, The Night Manager (1993), line by Richard Roper -
"The point of the Fourth Amendment, which often is not grasped by zealous officers, is not that it denies law enforcement the support of the usual inferences which reasonable men draw from evidence. Its protection consists in requiring that those inferences be drawn by a neutral and detached magistrate instead of being judged by the officer engaged in the often competitive enterprise of ferreting out crime."
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The book was dedicated in the first (1982) and sixth (2025) editions to Justin William Hall (1975-2025). He was three when this project started in 1978.
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Category Archives: Reasonable suspicion
W.D.Tex.: Def’s calling for proof of insurance delayed the stop while drug dog came and alerted
The dog sniff did not prolong the stop – the dog arrived while defendant was calling his girlfriend about bringing his proof of insurance. Moreover, there was reasonable suspicion on the totality. United States v. Lincoln, 2023 U.S. Dist. LEXIS … Continue reading
OK: No GFE* for search under a statute held unconstitutional 18 months before the search
Defendant was stopped and had blood taken after a DUI stop under a statute held unconstitutional 18 months earlier by this court. No good faith exception for a statute still on the books that everyone should have known about. (Defendant … Continue reading
D.Colo.: Racial profiling claim is relevant to officer’s credibility in a civil rights case
In a civil rights case, “Evidence of racial profiling (i.e., bias) by Trooper Padilla would tend to make the fact to which he is expected to testify (i.e., that Plaintiff failed the roadside sobriety tests and thus there was probable … Continue reading
CA3: Arrest without PC doesn’t require dismissal of indictment
If an arrest was without probable cause, evidence derived from the arrest might be suppressible but the indictment would not be quashed. United States v. Rodriguez-Mendez, 2023 U.S. App. LEXIS 11558 (3d Cir. May 11, 2023).* Being unable to read … Continue reading
TN: Bounty hunter is not a state actor for 4A
A bailbond bounty hunter is not a state actor for the Fourth Amendment. State v. Wojnarek, 2023 Tenn. Crim. App. LEXIS 160 (May 10, 2023). A Delaware JP issued this search warrant, and it was with probable cause. United States … Continue reading
CA8: Child’s statement there was a gun in felon’s house was PC
Defendant’s child saying “my daddy’s has a gun in there” was sufficient for issuing a search warrant for felon in possession. United States v. Watkins, 2023 U.S. App. LEXIS 11303 (8th Cir. May 9, 2023).* Driving with an allegedly purloined … Continue reading
CA8: Exit border search of electronic devices was based on reasonable suspicion
There was reasonable suspicion for defendant’s intensive exit border search of his electronic devices. “The officers and agents had background information, much of it corroborated, that provided a basis for assessing Xiang’s actions in May and June 2017. Their experience … Continue reading
N.D.Ala.: No REP in DEA’s license plate reader database
“First, Officer Josh Powers did not violate Toombs’ Fourth Amendment rights by accessing license plate reader data from the Department of Justice’s Drug Enforcement Administration System Information License (‘DEASIL’). Second, Powers had reasonable suspicion of criminal activity when he extended … Continue reading
CA3: When relying on social media posts for PC, innocent explanations aren’t required
The warrant affiant adequately corroborated the CIs. When relying on jewelry visible in defendant’s social media posts, it isn’t necessary for the affiant to prove they are real or actually his. For probable cause, innocent explanations don’t have to be … Continue reading
N.D.W.Va.: Checking on warrants of occupants of car reasonably extended the stop
Checking on the outstanding warrants on the occupants of the car reasonably extended the stop. United States v. Hamlet, 2023 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 76568 (N.D. W.Va. May 2, 2023).* Presence of drugs in one’s car doesn’t make probable cause to … Continue reading
CA5: 4A doesn’t apply to a letter carrier
“In co-defendant Johnlouis’s case, our court upheld the denial of the motion to suppress because we determined that the letter carrier was ‘not a government actor to whom the Fourth Amendment applies.’ United States v. Johnlouis, 44 F.4th 331, 337 … Continue reading
M.D.Pa.: Holding ptf’s car for 9 weeks without justification states 5A, not 4A, claim
Police seized plaintiff’s car and held it without justification for nine weeks. Plaintiff’s states a claim under the Fifth Amendment, but not the Fourth. Kelly v. Bell, 2023 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 74807 (M.D. Pa. Apr. 28, 2023). “A search-warrant advisory … Continue reading
CA8: Merely pointing a Taser not a seizure
Pointing a Taser at plaintiff was not a seizure. Pollreis v. Marzolf, 2023 U.S. App. LEXIS 10269 (8th Cir. Apr. 27, 2023). Even if possession of a firearm in a concealed carry state was not unlawful, smoking marijuana with a … Continue reading
CA8: Omission of fact CI lied about prior murder for hire schemes wasn’t material enough where one recorded ptf
This was a murder for hire scheme. The affiant had good information that the CI was a notorious liar, having falsely alleged other schemes in the past. Here, however, there was “powerful” evidence of probable cause in recordings to back … Continue reading
C.D.Cal.: Mere seizure of a firearm not per se a 2A violation
“‘The mere occurrence of a firearm seizure during a traffic stop, however, is not enough to establish a Second Amendment violation. Police seize and confiscate firearms routinely, and this Court will not presume that each and every one of those … Continue reading
NV: A-C privilege reason for return of documents
Attorney-client privilege is reason for return of documents under F.R.Crim.P. 41(g), and Nevada recognizes that, too, regardless of whether there is an open investigation. In re Search Warrants Regarding Seizure of Documents, 2023 Nev. App. Unpub. LEXIS 131 (Apr. 7, … Continue reading
SC: Blood draw unreasonable but saved by GFE because it happened before holding here
As to the blood draw in this DUI death case, “We conclude section 56-5-2946 is facially constitutional but unconstitutional as applied in Appellant’s case. However, we find the trial court did not err in denying Appellant’s motion to suppress because … Continue reading
TX6: Def’s multiple lies during traffic stop was RS
All of defendant’s lies during a traffic stop added up to reasonable suspicion. “During the investigation of the initial traffic stop and Dixon’s lack of a driver’s license, Dixon lied about coming from Angie B’s, a nightclub known for high … Continue reading
E.D.N.Y.: Not responding to govt’s 4A response brief amounts to waiver
Not responding to the Fourth Amendment issues in post-hearing briefing was waiver. Defendant loses on the merits anyway. Defendant retrieved sham cocaine (replaced by CBP) in the avionics compartment of an American Airlines plane. He consented to the search of … Continue reading
VA: Two Black men walking in residential area at night near a crime wasn’t RS
Walking while black at night in a residential area near where a crime reported wasn’t enough to stop them. There was nothing suggested they did anything. Turay v. Commonwealth, 2023 Va. App. LEXIS 205 (Mar. 21, 2023) (unpublished):