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"If it was easy, everybody would be doing it. It isn't, and they don't."
—Me -
"Life is not a matter of holding good cards, but of playing a poor hand well."
–Josh Billings (pseudonym of Henry Wheeler Shaw), Josh Billings on Ice, and Other Things (1868) (erroneously attributed to Robert Louis Stevenson, among others) -
“I am still learning.”
—Domenico Giuntalodi (but misattributed to Michelangelo Buonarroti (common phrase throughout 1500's)). -
"Love work; hate mastery over others; and avoid intimacy with the government."
—Shemaya, in the Thalmud -
"It is a pleasant world we live in, sir, a very pleasant world. There are bad people in it, Mr. Richard, but if there were no bad people, there would be no good lawyers."
—Charles Dickens, “The Old Curiosity Shop ... With a Frontispiece. From a Painting by Geo. Cattermole, Etc.” 255 (1848) -
"A system of law that not only makes certain conduct criminal, but also lays down rules for the conduct of the authorities, often becomes complex in its application to individual cases, and will from time to time produce imperfect results, especially if one's attention is confined to the particular case at bar. Some criminals do go free because of the necessity of keeping government and its servants in their place. That is one of the costs of having and enforcing a Bill of Rights. This country is built on the assumption that the cost is worth paying, and that in the long run we are all both freer and safer if the Constitution is strictly enforced."
—Williams v. Nix, 700 F. 2d 1164, 1173 (8th Cir. 1983) (Richard Sheppard Arnold, J.), rev'd Nix v. Williams, 467 US. 431 (1984). -
"The criminal goes free, if he must, but it is the law that sets him free. Nothing can destroy a government more quickly than its failure to observe its own laws, or worse, its disregard of the charter of its own existence."
—Mapp v. Ohio, 367 U.S. 643, 659 (1961). -
"Any costs the exclusionary rule are costs imposed directly by the Fourth Amendment."
—Yale Kamisar, 86 Mich.L.Rev. 1, 36 n. 151 (1987). -
"There have been powerful hydraulic pressures throughout our history that bear heavily on the Court to water down constitutional guarantees and give the police the upper hand. That hydraulic pressure has probably never been greater than it is today."
— Terry v. Ohio, 392 U.S. 1, 39 (1968) (Douglas, J., dissenting). -
"The great end, for which men entered into society, was to secure their property."
—Entick v. Carrington, 19 How.St.Tr. 1029, 1066, 95 Eng. Rep. 807 (C.P. 1765) -
"It is a fair summary of history to say that the safeguards of liberty have frequently been forged in controversies involving not very nice people. And so, while we are concerned here with a shabby defrauder, we must deal with his case in the context of what are really the great themes expressed by the Fourth Amendment."
—United States v. Rabinowitz, 339 U.S. 56, 69 (1950) (Frankfurter, J., dissenting) -
"The course of true law pertaining to searches and seizures, as enunciated here, has not–to put it mildly–run smooth."
—Chapman v. United States, 365 U.S. 610, 618 (1961) (Frankfurter, J., concurring). -
"A search is a search, even if it happens to disclose nothing but the bottom of a turntable."
—Arizona v. Hicks, 480 U.S. 321, 325 (1987) -
"For the Fourth Amendment protects people, not places. What a person knowingly exposes to the public, even in his own home or office, is not a subject of Fourth Amendment protection. ... But what he seeks to preserve as private, even in an area accessible to the public, may be constitutionally protected."
—Katz v. United States, 389 U.S. 347, 351 (1967) -
“Experience should teach us to be most on guard to protect liberty when the Government’s purposes are beneficent. Men born to freedom are naturally alert to repel invasion of their liberty by evil-minded
rulers. The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well-meaning but without understanding.”
—United States v. Olmstead, 277 U.S. 438, 479 (1925) (Brandeis, J., dissenting)
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“Liberty—the freedom from unwarranted intrusion by government—is as easily lost through insistent nibbles by government officials who seek to do their jobs too well as by those whose purpose it is to oppress; the piranha can be as deadly as the shark.”
—United States v. $124,570, 873 F.2d 1240, 1246 (9th Cir. 1989) -
"You can't always get what you want / But if you try sometimes / You just might find / You get what you need."
—Mick Jagger & Keith Richards, Let it Bleed (album, 1969) -
"In Germany, they first came for the communists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a communist. Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew. Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist. Then they came for
the Catholics and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Catholic. Then they came
for me–and by that time there was nobody left to speak up."
—Martin Niemöller (1945) [he served seven years in a concentration camp] -
“Children grow up thinking the adult world is ordered, rational, fit for purpose. It’s crap. Becoming a man is realising that it’s all rotten. Realising how to celebrate that rottenness, that’s freedom.”
– John le Carré, The Night Manager (1993), line by Richard Roper -
"The point of the Fourth Amendment, which often is not grasped by zealous officers, is not that it denies law enforcement the support of the usual inferences which reasonable men draw from evidence. Its protection consists in requiring that those inferences be drawn by a neutral and detached magistrate instead of being judged by the officer engaged in the often competitive enterprise of ferreting out crime."
—Johnson v. United States, 333 U.S. 10, 13-14 (1948) -
The book was dedicated in the first (1982) and sixth (2025) editions to Justin William Hall (1975-2025). He was three when this project started in 1978.
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Category Archives: Reasonable suspicion
LA4: Merely having a concealed firearm isn’t RS for a frisk
“The State asserts that the evidence should not be suppressed because the NOPD was entitled to conduct a La. C.Cr.P. art. 215.1, ‘Terry stop’ on Mr. Green, which would have revealed the firearm. See Terry v. Ohio, …. However, the … Continue reading
OR: Merely driving off the road wasn’t RS, but adding the driver’s demeanor at the time was
“A traffic stop is a ‘seizure’ that requires a constitutional justification. … An officer’s investigative activity during a traffic stop is subject to both durational and subject-matter limitations. … Here, there are two ‘specific and articulable facts’ that support reasonable … Continue reading
S.D.N.Y.: Overseas seizure of Russian oligarch’s megayacht not governed by 4A
This megayacht was seized overseas for Russia sanctions. (Eduard Yurievich Khudainatov is the owner, and he’s a Russian oligarch who is a Putin proxy (per Forbes)) The claim that the initial seizure may have violated the Fourth Amendment fails because … Continue reading
MO: No duty of care owed by police to fleeing motorist
There was no duty owed to a fleeing motorist who killed himself and his passenger in flight. The police owed a duty to the rest of the locale to stop them. This was reasonable under Scott. Neil v. St. Louis … Continue reading
S.D.Fla.: SW application redacted for discovery for now
For the time being, the search warrant application is redacted in discovery under Rule 6(e). “First, the Special Counsel opposes the disclosure of a search warrant application for Defendant De Oliveira’s Gmail account …. This includes the search warrant itself, … Continue reading
CA4: Court instructing that the legality of searches were questions for the court wasn’t error
Defense counsel asked a question about something being in plain view which led to discussion of whether those words were an effort to challenge the search before the jury. The court instructed the jury that the legality of searches was … Continue reading
S.D.N.Y.: GJ subpoena for cell phone passcode quashed.
The government’s grand jury subpoena for defendant’s cell phone passcode is quashed because it seeks testimonial information in violation of the Fifth Amendment showing defendant’s knowledge of the contents of the phone. “The Court denies Gray’s Rule 41(g) motion. Even … Continue reading
M.D.La.: Automobile exception doesn’t apply to car parked in owner’s garage
Under Collins, the automobile exception does not apply to a car parked in the owner’s garage. United States v. Dejoie, 2024 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 64270 (M.D. La. Apr. 8, 2024). “The exclusionary rule does not apply to ‘physical evidence that … Continue reading
E.D.N.Y.: The search of def’s house started about 6:10 am; the camera time hadn’t been adjusted for DST
Defendant submitted that the search of his house started at 5:00 am. The officers and virtually all the evidence showed it started at 6:10 am. The metadata on some photographs showed 5:16 am. The court finds the camera’s time hadn’t … Continue reading
WA: Failure to argue the state constitution to the trial court waived reliance on it on appeal
Failure to argue the state constitution to the trial court waived reliance on it on appeal. State v. Troutman, 2024 Wash. App. LEXIS 672 (Apr. 8, 2024). There was reasonable suspicion for lengthening this detention from the fact the LPN … Continue reading
CA7: Warranted strip search in a private secure setting was conducted reasonably
“Shaw raises three responses, but they are unavailing. First, he contends that the officers did not follow Wisconsin and local laws that instruct officers to obtain written authorization from a supervisor before a strip search. But a violation of state … Continue reading
CA6: It’s clearly established that RS or PC required for a traffic stop
It was clearly established at the time that reasonable suspicion or probable cause was required for a traffic stop. Fact issues remain, so no qualified immunity. King v. City of Rockford, 2024 U.S. App. LEXIS 7327 (6th Cir. Mar. 28, … Continue reading
S.D.Ohio: Def’s 50% downward departure on USSG sentencing range makes IAC for not arguing 4A at sentencing moot; harmless error at worst
Where defendant got a 50% downward USSG departure for a 360-life offense, he received no ineffective assistance of counsel for failure to argue a firearm should have been suppressed that led only to a 2 point USSG enhancement. United States … Continue reading
CO: School search of serial offender under firearms “safety plan” was reasonable
The juvenile here was searched for weapons three days into his sophomore year. He was known to bring firearms to school, and his family and the school developed a “safety plan” to permit searches, which happened most of the freshman … Continue reading
OH1: Opening car door for officer safety here without RS; sweep of car unreasonable
Defendant in his car in a high crime area with overly tinted windows was not reasonable suspicion. Any furtive movements were attributed to the officer opening the door to see in the car for officer safety. The protective sweep of … Continue reading
CA11: Even if Carpenter applied to license plate readers, it happened before Carpenter was decided so good faith applies
Even if Carpenter applied to automated license plate readers, it was decided the day after this happened, so the good faith exception would apply in any event. In addition, the officer’s testimony about it was lay testimony under F.R.E. 702. … Continue reading
OH1: Missing notary seal on SW affidavit not an error of constitutional magnitude, so no suppression
A search warrant isn’t void because the affidavit in support was missing a notary seal. The rest of the statutory requirements were satisfied, and this wasn’t an error of constitutional magnitude. State v. Whittle, 2024-Ohio-1023,2024 Ohio App. LEXIS 958 (1st … Continue reading
CA2: District court erred in suppressing a SW executed at 6 am where SW and Rule 41 say 6 am to 10 pm
This search warrant was executed at 6 am, and the district court erred in granting the motion to suppress. “While 6:00 a.m. is the earliest time provided, it cannot be said that executing a warrant in accordance with its text–which … Continue reading