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—Me -
"Life is not a matter of holding good cards, but of playing a poor hand well."
–Josh Billings (pseudonym of Henry Wheeler Shaw), Josh Billings on Ice, and Other Things (1868) (erroneously attributed to Robert Louis Stevenson, among others) -
“I am still learning.”
—Domenico Giuntalodi (but misattributed to Michelangelo Buonarroti (common phrase throughout 1500's)). -
"Love work; hate mastery over others; and avoid intimacy with the government."
—Shemaya, in the Thalmud -
"It is a pleasant world we live in, sir, a very pleasant world. There are bad people in it, Mr. Richard, but if there were no bad people, there would be no good lawyers."
—Charles Dickens, “The Old Curiosity Shop ... With a Frontispiece. From a Painting by Geo. Cattermole, Etc.” 255 (1848) -
"A system of law that not only makes certain conduct criminal, but also lays down rules for the conduct of the authorities, often becomes complex in its application to individual cases, and will from time to time produce imperfect results, especially if one's attention is confined to the particular case at bar. Some criminals do go free because of the necessity of keeping government and its servants in their place. That is one of the costs of having and enforcing a Bill of Rights. This country is built on the assumption that the cost is worth paying, and that in the long run we are all both freer and safer if the Constitution is strictly enforced."
—Williams v. Nix, 700 F. 2d 1164, 1173 (8th Cir. 1983) (Richard Sheppard Arnold, J.), rev'd Nix v. Williams, 467 US. 431 (1984). -
"The criminal goes free, if he must, but it is the law that sets him free. Nothing can destroy a government more quickly than its failure to observe its own laws, or worse, its disregard of the charter of its own existence."
—Mapp v. Ohio, 367 U.S. 643, 659 (1961). -
"Any costs the exclusionary rule are costs imposed directly by the Fourth Amendment."
—Yale Kamisar, 86 Mich.L.Rev. 1, 36 n. 151 (1987). -
"There have been powerful hydraulic pressures throughout our history that bear heavily on the Court to water down constitutional guarantees and give the police the upper hand. That hydraulic pressure has probably never been greater than it is today."
— Terry v. Ohio, 392 U.S. 1, 39 (1968) (Douglas, J., dissenting). -
"The great end, for which men entered into society, was to secure their property."
—Entick v. Carrington, 19 How.St.Tr. 1029, 1066, 95 Eng. Rep. 807 (C.P. 1765) -
"It is a fair summary of history to say that the safeguards of liberty have frequently been forged in controversies involving not very nice people. And so, while we are concerned here with a shabby defrauder, we must deal with his case in the context of what are really the great themes expressed by the Fourth Amendment."
—United States v. Rabinowitz, 339 U.S. 56, 69 (1950) (Frankfurter, J., dissenting) -
"The course of true law pertaining to searches and seizures, as enunciated here, has not–to put it mildly–run smooth."
—Chapman v. United States, 365 U.S. 610, 618 (1961) (Frankfurter, J., concurring). -
"A search is a search, even if it happens to disclose nothing but the bottom of a turntable."
—Arizona v. Hicks, 480 U.S. 321, 325 (1987) -
"For the Fourth Amendment protects people, not places. What a person knowingly exposes to the public, even in his own home or office, is not a subject of Fourth Amendment protection. ... But what he seeks to preserve as private, even in an area accessible to the public, may be constitutionally protected."
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“Experience should teach us to be most on guard to protect liberty when the Government’s purposes are beneficent. Men born to freedom are naturally alert to repel invasion of their liberty by evil-minded
rulers. The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well-meaning but without understanding.”
—United States v. Olmstead, 277 U.S. 438, 479 (1925) (Brandeis, J., dissenting)
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“Liberty—the freedom from unwarranted intrusion by government—is as easily lost through insistent nibbles by government officials who seek to do their jobs too well as by those whose purpose it is to oppress; the piranha can be as deadly as the shark.”
—United States v. $124,570, 873 F.2d 1240, 1246 (9th Cir. 1989) -
"You can't always get what you want / But if you try sometimes / You just might find / You get what you need."
—Mick Jagger & Keith Richards, Let it Bleed (album, 1969) -
"In Germany, they first came for the communists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a communist. Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew. Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist. Then they came for
the Catholics and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Catholic. Then they came
for me–and by that time there was nobody left to speak up."
—Martin Niemöller (1945) [he served seven years in a concentration camp] -
“Children grow up thinking the adult world is ordered, rational, fit for purpose. It’s crap. Becoming a man is realising that it’s all rotten. Realising how to celebrate that rottenness, that’s freedom.”
– John le Carré, The Night Manager (1993), line by Richard Roper -
"The point of the Fourth Amendment, which often is not grasped by zealous officers, is not that it denies law enforcement the support of the usual inferences which reasonable men draw from evidence. Its protection consists in requiring that those inferences be drawn by a neutral and detached magistrate instead of being judged by the officer engaged in the often competitive enterprise of ferreting out crime."
—Johnson v. United States, 333 U.S. 10, 13-14 (1948) -
The book was dedicated in the first (1982) and sixth (2025) editions to Justin William Hall (1975-2025). He was three when this project started in 1978.
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Category Archives: Reasonable suspicion
D.Mont.: Asking about drugs made this stop intimidating and governed by Rodrieguez
During this stop, the officer finally asked about drugs in the car. “At this moment, the encounter became intimidating, and a reasonable person in Tripp’s situation would not feel free to leave. The encounter thus ripened into a Terry, or … Continue reading
MT community caretaking entries cannot be based on alleged crime alone
The welfare check of defendant’s house was reasonable. Yet, in this state, the community caretaker function cannot be based on an alleged crime alone. State v. Case, 2024 MT 165 (Aug. 6, 2024). Defendant’s 2255 ineffective assistance claim is rejected. … Continue reading
CA9: Ptf’s protestations of innocence at arrest doesn’t undermine this arrest warrant
“Farber’s § 1983 claims also fail because she has not shown an underlying constitutional violation. Her arrest did not violate the Fourth Amendment because the arresting officers ‘had a good faith, reasonable belief that [Farber] was the subject of the … Continue reading
N.D.Ind.: Govt has burden to show first appearance more than 48 hours after arrest was reasonable
“Mr. Williams alleged enough facts to support an inference that his rights were violated. Mr. Williams contends that the County Sheriff violated his Fourth Amendment rights because he was jailed without a timely decision about whether there was probable cause … Continue reading
NYTimes: Traffic Stop Data Can Shape Policy. It’s Often Missing.
NYTimes: Traffic Stop Data Can Shape Policy. It’s Often Missing. By Ben Blatt and Emily Badger (“Communities with good data often have different political and policy discussions than places where nonexistent data makes it hard for the public to know … Continue reading
CA4: Dist.Ct.’s denial of injunction against taint team search protocol not appealable
The target of a search sought District Court intervention over a taint team’s search protocol, and it denied an injunction. There was no appellate jurisdiction to take that issue up. In re Search Warrants Issued February 18, 2022 (United States … Continue reading
VA: Open container violation here justified full search of car
Here, an open container with the smell of alcohol justified a full vehicle search under the automobile exception. “Applying this totality of the circumstances analysis, we hold that the circuit court did not err in finding that probable cause justified … Continue reading
D.Del.: Officer could open car door for officer safety to insure there was no one else inside
New arguments raised at the suppression hearing are considered waived. Even if it was considered, it lacks merit: The officer could open the car for a check for other passengers for officer safety. United States v. Hargraves, 2024 U.S. Dist. … Continue reading
MI: Partially blocking a car can be a seizure, here without RS
“A seizure may occur when a police vehicle partially blocks a defendant’s egress if the totality of the circumstances indicate that a reasonable person would not have felt free to leave; while the position of the police vehicle is an … Continue reading
MI: Unreasonable mistake of law justifies exclusion
Defendant was stopped based on what the court previously found was a lack of reasonable suspicion from an unreasonable application of law. It previously remanded to the court of appeals to determine whether the exclusionary rule should apply. The court … Continue reading
D.Mass.: No discovery of covert Shapchat accounts for lack of materiality
Officers set up covert Snapchat accounts to communicate with defendant. He’s not entitled to discovery about that for Brady or Franks purposes because he can’t show materiality. United States v. Stroup, 2024 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 132483 (D. Mass. July 26, … Continue reading
D.Mass.: Def had standing to challenge inventory but not the stop
“In sum, the Court finds that the failure to comply with each of these clearly-written standardized procedures contributes to a finding that the purported inventory search was improperly conducted.” Also, defendant didn’t have standing to challenge the stop of the … Continue reading
CA8: When it was immediately apparent that RS for the stop no longer existed, it should have ended
As the officer approached the car stopped for suspicion of shoplifting, it was immediately apparent that the occupants did not match the description of the shoplifters he was looking for. The stop should have ended then. Storrs v. Rozeboom, 2024 … Continue reading
E.D.Mo.: A gun seized in plain view can be run to see if it’s stolen
An officer seizing a firearm in plain view off defendant could run it to see if it was stolen. United States v. Reid, 2024 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 130770 (E.D. Mo. June 11, 2024). 2255 petitioner’s IAC claim on Fourth Amendment … Continue reading
VA: “‘you got nothing in the car, right?’ did not prolong the stop”
“The trial court made a factual finding that Investigator Natiello’s question lasted the same amount of time that it would have taken to simply hand the documents back to Jones. In addition, the question occurred before the investigator addressed Jones’s … Continue reading
S.D.N.Y.: Cell phone SW was “bare bones” on connection to the crime; no PC, no GFE
In this racketeering case, defendant admitted for purposes of the motion to suppress he was in the gang and that people engaged in violent acts. The government never showed probable cause to believe his cell phone had evidence of a … Continue reading
CA5: GFE first (was reliance objectively reasonable), PC second
“Warrants are reviewed under a two-part test. In the first step, we determine whether the good-faith exception to the exclusionary rule applies. Under that exception, ‘evidence obtained from [a] search will not be excluded’ even if ‘probable cause for a … Continue reading
CA11: RS existed on the totality of the stop even though the officer did not intend to issue a traffic ticket
Reasonable suspicion developed to continue the stop even though the officer didn’t intend to issue a traffic ticket. United States v. Martinez, 2024 U.S. App. LEXIS 17675 (11th Cir. July 18, 2024). 2255 petitioner’s ineffective assistance of counsel claim that … Continue reading