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"Life is not a matter of holding good cards, but of playing a poor hand well."
–Josh Billings (pseudonym of Henry Wheeler Shaw), Josh Billings on Ice, and Other Things (1868) (erroneously attributed to Robert Louis Stevenson, among others) -
“I am still learning.”
—Domenico Giuntalodi (but misattributed to Michelangelo Buonarroti (common phrase throughout 1500's)). -
"Love work; hate mastery over others; and avoid intimacy with the government."
—Shemaya, in the Thalmud -
"It is a pleasant world we live in, sir, a very pleasant world. There are bad people in it, Mr. Richard, but if there were no bad people, there would be no good lawyers."
—Charles Dickens, “The Old Curiosity Shop ... With a Frontispiece. From a Painting by Geo. Cattermole, Etc.” 255 (1848) -
"A system of law that not only makes certain conduct criminal, but also lays down rules for the conduct of the authorities, often becomes complex in its application to individual cases, and will from time to time produce imperfect results, especially if one's attention is confined to the particular case at bar. Some criminals do go free because of the necessity of keeping government and its servants in their place. That is one of the costs of having and enforcing a Bill of Rights. This country is built on the assumption that the cost is worth paying, and that in the long run we are all both freer and safer if the Constitution is strictly enforced."
—Williams v. Nix, 700 F. 2d 1164, 1173 (8th Cir. 1983) (Richard Sheppard Arnold, J.), rev'd Nix v. Williams, 467 US. 431 (1984). -
"The criminal goes free, if he must, but it is the law that sets him free. Nothing can destroy a government more quickly than its failure to observe its own laws, or worse, its disregard of the charter of its own existence."
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"Any costs the exclusionary rule are costs imposed directly by the Fourth Amendment."
—Yale Kamisar, 86 Mich.L.Rev. 1, 36 n. 151 (1987). -
"There have been powerful hydraulic pressures throughout our history that bear heavily on the Court to water down constitutional guarantees and give the police the upper hand. That hydraulic pressure has probably never been greater than it is today."
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"The great end, for which men entered into society, was to secure their property."
—Entick v. Carrington, 19 How.St.Tr. 1029, 1066, 95 Eng. Rep. 807 (C.P. 1765) -
"It is a fair summary of history to say that the safeguards of liberty have frequently been forged in controversies involving not very nice people. And so, while we are concerned here with a shabby defrauder, we must deal with his case in the context of what are really the great themes expressed by the Fourth Amendment."
—United States v. Rabinowitz, 339 U.S. 56, 69 (1950) (Frankfurter, J., dissenting) -
"The course of true law pertaining to searches and seizures, as enunciated here, has not–to put it mildly–run smooth."
—Chapman v. United States, 365 U.S. 610, 618 (1961) (Frankfurter, J., concurring). -
"A search is a search, even if it happens to disclose nothing but the bottom of a turntable."
—Arizona v. Hicks, 480 U.S. 321, 325 (1987) -
"For the Fourth Amendment protects people, not places. What a person knowingly exposes to the public, even in his own home or office, is not a subject of Fourth Amendment protection. ... But what he seeks to preserve as private, even in an area accessible to the public, may be constitutionally protected."
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“Experience should teach us to be most on guard to protect liberty when the Government’s purposes are beneficent. Men born to freedom are naturally alert to repel invasion of their liberty by evil-minded
rulers. The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well-meaning but without understanding.”
—United States v. Olmstead, 277 U.S. 438, 479 (1925) (Brandeis, J., dissenting)
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“Liberty—the freedom from unwarranted intrusion by government—is as easily lost through insistent nibbles by government officials who seek to do their jobs too well as by those whose purpose it is to oppress; the piranha can be as deadly as the shark.”
—United States v. $124,570, 873 F.2d 1240, 1246 (9th Cir. 1989) -
"You can't always get what you want / But if you try sometimes / You just might find / You get what you need."
—Mick Jagger & Keith Richards, Let it Bleed (album, 1969) -
"In Germany, they first came for the communists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a communist. Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew. Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist. Then they came for
the Catholics and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Catholic. Then they came
for me–and by that time there was nobody left to speak up."
—Martin Niemöller (1945) [he served seven years in a concentration camp] -
“Children grow up thinking the adult world is ordered, rational, fit for purpose. It’s crap. Becoming a man is realising that it’s all rotten. Realising how to celebrate that rottenness, that’s freedom.”
– John le Carré, The Night Manager (1993), line by Richard Roper -
"The point of the Fourth Amendment, which often is not grasped by zealous officers, is not that it denies law enforcement the support of the usual inferences which reasonable men draw from evidence. Its protection consists in requiring that those inferences be drawn by a neutral and detached magistrate instead of being judged by the officer engaged in the often competitive enterprise of ferreting out crime."
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The book was dedicated in the first (1982) and sixth (2025) editions to Justin William Hall (1975-2025). He was three when this project started in 1978.
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Category Archives: Reasonable suspicion
AP: Lawsuit: Chicago police misused ShotSpotter in murder case
AP: Lawsuit: Chicago police misused ShotSpotter in murder case by Garance Burke & Michael Tarm (“A federal lawsuit filed Thursday alleges Chicago police misused ‘unreliable’ gunshot detection technology and failed to pursue other leads in investigating a grandfather from the … Continue reading
MS: Minor errors in paperwork didn’t obscure a thing and didn’t prejudice def
Minor errors in the paperwork for the warrant were not prejudicial to defendant. There was no challenge to probable cause, and the papers as a whole show the warrant timely executed after issuance. Jenkins v. State, 2022 Miss. App. LEXIS … Continue reading
CA5: Being handcuffed during traffic stop for officer safety wasn’t “custody” for Miranda purposes
Defendant was handcuffed during a traffic stop for officer safety, and the officer’s on the street questions were not custodial for Miranda purposes. United States v. Coulter, 2022 U.S. App. LEXIS 19751 (5th Cir. July 18, 2022). This protective sweep … Continue reading
stopspying.org: ShotSpotter and the Misfires of Gunshot Detection Technology
stopspying.org: ShotSpotter and the Misfires of Gunshot Detection Technology by Helen Wesley-Brown, Anna Sipek, Katie Buoymaster, Juilee Shivalkar, Will Owen & Eleni Manis:
CA7: The question is only whether the officer reasonably believed def violated the law, not whether def did
“‘[T]he question … is whether [the officer] reasonably believed that he saw a traffic violation, not whether [the defendant] actually violated the [law].’ Cole, 21 F.4th at 428.” United States v. Yang, 2022 U.S. App. LEXIS 19125 (7th Cir. July … Continue reading
CA7: The question is not whether def committed a traffic violation, it’s whether the officer reasonably believed he did
“‘[T]he question … is whether [the officer] reasonably believed that he saw a traffic violation, not whether [the defendant] actually violated the [law].’ Cole, 21 F.4th at 428.” United States v. Yang, 2022 U.S. App. LEXIS 19125 (7th Cir. July … Continue reading
D.Neb.: Being with known gang members was RS here
Association with known gang members was reasonable suspicion when defendant was with them. “True, the task force did not have information that Defendant himself was affiliated with a gang or otherwise had a criminal history involving violence. But, given his … Continue reading
N.D.Ind.: USMJ’s finding stop was racially motivated is irrelevant and rejected
The USMJ’s finding that the stop was racially motivated is rejected. Reviewing the dashcam video, the stop was clearly justified for a traffic offense, and that’s all that was legally required. United States v. Crawford, 2022 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 120634 … Continue reading
N.D.Ind.: Typo in SW home address was cured by picture of house
A typo in defendant’s home address was not prejudicial where there was a picture of the house included in the warrant. Thus, no ineffective assistance of counsel for not challenging it. Kassay v. United States, 2022 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 116669 … Continue reading
S.D.Ind.: Inordinate delay in producing cell phone search discovery doesn’t justify dismissal
The government’s untimely discovery response to defendant’s repeated requests for the product of his cell phone search doesn’t warrant dismissal of the indictment. Probable cause was shown for the cell phone search, and the motion to suppress is denied. United … Continue reading
E.D.Va.: No RS for protective sweep of car for weapon
The officers lacked reasonable suspicion for a protective sweep of defendant’s car. His actions did not support any suggestion he might be armed. United States v. Trice, 2022 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 115463 (E.D. Va. June 29, 2022).* Defendant’s refusal to … Continue reading
CO: Dog sniff after legal possession became law suppressed; no RS
A dog sniff after Amendment 64 legalized personal possession of marijuana in Colorado was unjustified, unreasonable, and suppressed. Other case law already put the issue in doubt before this search occurred. There was no reason to suspect the occupants of … Continue reading
GA: Product of state search warrant could be analyzed by federal officers
The fact a search warrant was directed to all peace officers of the State of Georgia didn’t preclude the state from turning the evidence over to the Secret Service for forensic analysis. Oliver v. State, 2022 Ga. App. LEXIS 344 … Continue reading
OH: Plastic baggie caught in bookbag zipper wasn’t “immediately apparent” for plain view
“While executing an arrest warrant, police discovered a closed bookbag with a plastic baggie stuck in its zipper. Without obtaining a search warrant, they opened the bookbag and discovered illegal drugs. The question for us is whether the warrantless search … Continue reading
WY: Pending drug case is not RS, but it is “a piece of the puzzle”
The collective knowledge of two officers justified this stop. One defendant’s pending drug case was not reasonable suspicion itself, but it was “a piece of the puzzle.” Guandong v. State, 2022 WY 83, 2022 Wyo. LEXIS 83 (June 28, 2022). … Continue reading
CA9: Inventory of backpack no one would claim was reasonable
The seizure and inventory of a backpack in a car was reasonable where neither of the occupants could say who it belonged to. United States v. Montano, 2022 U.S. App. LEXIS 17544 (9th Cir. June 24, 2022).* Plaintiff cannot claim … Continue reading
WI: ShotSpotter alert and furtive movements within 60 seconds of alert is RS
Wisconsin explains ShotSpotter alerts and developing reasonable suspicion. Officers arrived almost immediately without lights and sirens and looked for people. They saw the defendant who was acting evasively. That, with the alert, was reasonable suspicion. State v. Nimmer, 2022 WI … Continue reading
W.D.La.: If the stop is too long for Rodriguez the defense should at least show it
If the stop is too long for Rodriguez, the defense should at least attempt to show it. “Because there is nothing set forth in the facts alleged by both parties that shows Carter’s detention was lengthy or extended beyond the … Continue reading
CA7: Bail hearing doesn’t have to be in 48 hours if a PC determination was
There is no hard rule that a bail hearing has to happen within 48 hours of arrest. PC finding, yes; bail, no. “[P]recedent dictates that only a probable-cause determination must be held within forty-eight hours. The constitutionally required timing of … Continue reading