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—Me -
"Life is not a matter of holding good cards, but of playing a poor hand well."
–Josh Billings (pseudonym of Henry Wheeler Shaw), Josh Billings on Ice, and Other Things (1868) (erroneously attributed to Robert Louis Stevenson, among others) -
“I am still learning.”
—Domenico Giuntalodi (but misattributed to Michelangelo Buonarroti (common phrase throughout 1500's)). -
"Love work; hate mastery over others; and avoid intimacy with the government."
—Shemaya, in the Thalmud -
"It is a pleasant world we live in, sir, a very pleasant world. There are bad people in it, Mr. Richard, but if there were no bad people, there would be no good lawyers."
—Charles Dickens, “The Old Curiosity Shop ... With a Frontispiece. From a Painting by Geo. Cattermole, Etc.” 255 (1848) -
"A system of law that not only makes certain conduct criminal, but also lays down rules for the conduct of the authorities, often becomes complex in its application to individual cases, and will from time to time produce imperfect results, especially if one's attention is confined to the particular case at bar. Some criminals do go free because of the necessity of keeping government and its servants in their place. That is one of the costs of having and enforcing a Bill of Rights. This country is built on the assumption that the cost is worth paying, and that in the long run we are all both freer and safer if the Constitution is strictly enforced."
—Williams v. Nix, 700 F. 2d 1164, 1173 (8th Cir. 1983) (Richard Sheppard Arnold, J.), rev'd Nix v. Williams, 467 US. 431 (1984). -
"The criminal goes free, if he must, but it is the law that sets him free. Nothing can destroy a government more quickly than its failure to observe its own laws, or worse, its disregard of the charter of its own existence."
—Mapp v. Ohio, 367 U.S. 643, 659 (1961). -
"Any costs the exclusionary rule are costs imposed directly by the Fourth Amendment."
—Yale Kamisar, 86 Mich.L.Rev. 1, 36 n. 151 (1987). -
"There have been powerful hydraulic pressures throughout our history that bear heavily on the Court to water down constitutional guarantees and give the police the upper hand. That hydraulic pressure has probably never been greater than it is today."
— Terry v. Ohio, 392 U.S. 1, 39 (1968) (Douglas, J., dissenting). -
"The great end, for which men entered into society, was to secure their property."
—Entick v. Carrington, 19 How.St.Tr. 1029, 1066, 95 Eng. Rep. 807 (C.P. 1765) -
"It is a fair summary of history to say that the safeguards of liberty have frequently been forged in controversies involving not very nice people. And so, while we are concerned here with a shabby defrauder, we must deal with his case in the context of what are really the great themes expressed by the Fourth Amendment."
—United States v. Rabinowitz, 339 U.S. 56, 69 (1950) (Frankfurter, J., dissenting) -
"The course of true law pertaining to searches and seizures, as enunciated here, has not–to put it mildly–run smooth."
—Chapman v. United States, 365 U.S. 610, 618 (1961) (Frankfurter, J., concurring). -
"A search is a search, even if it happens to disclose nothing but the bottom of a turntable."
—Arizona v. Hicks, 480 U.S. 321, 325 (1987) -
"For the Fourth Amendment protects people, not places. What a person knowingly exposes to the public, even in his own home or office, is not a subject of Fourth Amendment protection. ... But what he seeks to preserve as private, even in an area accessible to the public, may be constitutionally protected."
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“Experience should teach us to be most on guard to protect liberty when the Government’s purposes are beneficent. Men born to freedom are naturally alert to repel invasion of their liberty by evil-minded
rulers. The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well-meaning but without understanding.”
—United States v. Olmstead, 277 U.S. 438, 479 (1925) (Brandeis, J., dissenting)
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“Liberty—the freedom from unwarranted intrusion by government—is as easily lost through insistent nibbles by government officials who seek to do their jobs too well as by those whose purpose it is to oppress; the piranha can be as deadly as the shark.”
—United States v. $124,570, 873 F.2d 1240, 1246 (9th Cir. 1989) -
"You can't always get what you want / But if you try sometimes / You just might find / You get what you need."
—Mick Jagger & Keith Richards, Let it Bleed (album, 1969) -
"In Germany, they first came for the communists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a communist. Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew. Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist. Then they came for
the Catholics and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Catholic. Then they came
for me–and by that time there was nobody left to speak up."
—Martin Niemöller (1945) [he served seven years in a concentration camp] -
“Children grow up thinking the adult world is ordered, rational, fit for purpose. It’s crap. Becoming a man is realising that it’s all rotten. Realising how to celebrate that rottenness, that’s freedom.”
– John le Carré, The Night Manager (1993), line by Richard Roper -
"The point of the Fourth Amendment, which often is not grasped by zealous officers, is not that it denies law enforcement the support of the usual inferences which reasonable men draw from evidence. Its protection consists in requiring that those inferences be drawn by a neutral and detached magistrate instead of being judged by the officer engaged in the often competitive enterprise of ferreting out crime."
—Johnson v. United States, 333 U.S. 10, 13-14 (1948) -
The book was dedicated in the first (1982) and sixth (2025) editions to Justin William Hall (1975-2025). He was three when this project started in 1978.
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Category Archives: Reasonable suspicion
CA3: Getting ptf’s personal information from third parties after he was seen open carrying was not 2A or 4A violation
Plaintiff was seen open carrying on a bicycle, and the officer attempted to stop him. The officer later got information on plaintiff from a store he’d been in. None of that violated the Second or Fourth Amendment. Glover v. Fidaannd, … Continue reading
D.Conn.: Failure to challenge lack of announcement in federal court was futile and not ineffective assistance
“First, Mr. Smith cannot establish prejudice from his attorney failing to raise the alleged violation of the knock-and-announce requirement as ‘the exclusionary rule does not apply to evidence discovered in the ensuing search.’ United States v. Acosta, 502 F.3d 54, … Continue reading
VA: 4A exclusionary rule does not apply in a civil zoning case
The Fourth Amendment exclusionary rule does not apply in a civil zoning case. Bd. of Supervisors of Fairfax Cty. v. Leach-Lewis, 2024 Va. LEXIS 38 (June 20, 2024). Surveillance of him at a stash house and other information provided probable … Continue reading
WI: Community caretaking stop couldn’t be expanded without RS
Where defendant was stopped under the community caretaking function, expanding the stop without further justification was unreasonable. Here, it was because the officer thought defendant may have been driving while sleepy, but the stop was extended. State v. Wiskowski, 2024 … Continue reading
N.Mar.Isl.: DNA order in probate case complied with 4A
There was sufficient justification for the court to order a DNA test in a probate matter, and the order complied with the Fourth Amendment. In re Est. of Kapileo, 2024 N. Mar. I. LEXIS 4 (Superior Ct. June 18, 2024). … Continue reading
D.P.R.: PR nighttime search rules irrelevant in federal court
Puerto Rico cases on nighttime search aren’t relevant in federal court. United States v. Pastrana-Román, 2023 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 238527 (D.P.R. March 9, 2023),* adopted, 2024 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 106442 (D.P.R. May 17, 2024).* Defendant didn’t show good cause for … Continue reading
OH2: Home safe could be searched under probation search waiver
The probation search of defendant’s home safe was reasonable under Knights, Griffin, and state law. State v. Apple, 2024-Ohio-2286, 2024 Ohio App. LEXIS 2166 (2d Dist. June 14, 2024). There was reasonable suspicion to stop defendant in a car, and … Continue reading
ID: Still reasonable to rerun LPN information during stop, having done it earlier in day
Earlier in the day before the traffic stop, the officer had already run defendant’s LPN. It was reasonable to do it again during the stop, and this did not unconstitutionally lengthen the stop. State v. Tranmer, 2024 Ida. App. LEXIS … Continue reading
D.Nev.: Affidavit accompanying cell phone SW provided particularity
If the affidavit accompanies the warrant it can cure particularity problems. Here it did. United States v. King, 2024 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 103299 (D. Nev. June 11, 2024).* Plaintiff stated a claim for arrest without probable cause by the defendant … Continue reading
CA5: Psychological injuries can support a 4A claim; unintended shooting victim has claim
If the facts were resolved against the police here, they violated clearly-established Fourth Amendment law by unjustifiably shooting into an occupied house and hitting an intended victim. Also, psychological injuries may sustain a Fourth Amendment claim. No qualified immunity. Singleton … Continue reading
CA3: Failure to provide a complete list of all that was seized under a warrant wasn’t justification for suppression
Failure to provide a complete list of all that was seized under a warrant wasn’t justification for suppression. United States v. Jackson, 2024 U.S. App. LEXIS 13913 (3d Cir. June 7, 2024). The dashcam video supported the claim defendant was … Continue reading
CA9: “[T]he Fourth Amendment does not require a warrant to arrest a parole violator.”
“[T]he Fourth Amendment does not require a warrant to arrest a parole violator.” United States v. Carpenter, 2024 U.S. App. LEXIS 13596 (9th Cir. June 5, 2024). The CI for the warrant is not disclosable under Roviaro. United States v. … Continue reading
CA11: Excessive force claim against USMS Fugitive Task Force barred by Egbert and Bivens
USMS Fugitive Task Force shot and killed a person they were arresting. Under Egbert, there’s no Bivens claim here. Robinson v. Sauls, 2024 U.S. App. LEXIS 13432 (11th Cir. June 4, 2024) (another death knell for Bivens). Defendant abandoned his … Continue reading
MT: Nervousness and failure to immediately produce DL not RS
There was no reasonable suspicion to extend defendant’s traffic stop by tribal police based on nervousness. “It is not uncommon for individuals to appear nervous when confronted by law enforcement, especially when considering Panasuk’s prior interactions with law enforcement, the … Continue reading
DC (en banc): Flight in a high crime area alone isn’t RS
“With this opinion, we first reaffirm the division’s [Mayo v. United States, 284 A.3d 403 (D.C. 2022)] predicate holding, uncontested by the government, that Mr. Mayo was seized when the GRU officer dove to tackle him and grabbed his foot, … Continue reading
D.Utah: Police slow walked traffic stop without RS
“The court concludes the officers delayed the stop beyond what the traffic-based mission reasonably demanded, both 1) as a result of a mistakes and a lack of reasonable diligence, and 2) to investigate their suspicions about Said and Saul. These … Continue reading
UT: RS on a prior day was not RS for stop on day in question
Even assuming the officer had reasonable suspicion defendant was involved in a prior incident, he had no reasonable suspicion for stopping defendant this time. State v. Correa, 2024 UT App 69, 2024 Utah App. LEXIS 69 (May 9, 2024). Petitioner … Continue reading