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Category Archives: Rule 41(g) / Return of property
OH2: Arrest clothes in jail storage can be searched without a warrant
Under established authority from 1993 in this court, defendant’s clothes from his arrest in storage at the jail can be tested for evidence without a warrant. State v. Wells, 2024-Ohio-4813 (2d Dist. Oct. 4, 2024). Defendant pled guilty and only … Continue reading
S.D.Ohio: City’s mowing unkempt yard wasn’t 4A violatoin
The city’s coming on to a sovereign citizen’s yard to mow it when he refused did not violate the Fourth Amendment. Prows v. City of Oxford, 2024 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 177976 (S.D. Ohio Sep. 30, 2024).* Defendant’s motion for return … Continue reading
W.D.Pa.: A state court dispute over return of seized property held by feds heading toward contempt was removable to federal court
Defendant’s property was seized under a state search warrant. Defendant sought return in state court, but it had been transferred to federal officers. They refused return. Contempt was sought against the federal officers in state court and this was removable … Continue reading
Natl. L. Rev.: The Reasonableness of Retaining Personal Property Post-Seizure and the Ascendancy of Text, History, and Tradition in Fourth Amendment Jurisprudence
Natl. L. Rev.: The Reasonableness of Retaining Personal Property Post-Seizure and the Ascendancy of Text, History, and Tradition in Fourth Amendment Jurisprudence by Ty E. Howard [the case is posted here]:
OR: Def’s removing a vehicle from impound lot subject to SW supported tampering charge even if the initial seizure was invalid
After a stop, defendant’s truck was seized and he was told that a search warrant would be sought for it. In the impound lot at 3 and 5 am, defendant showed up in the impound lot and was seen on … Continue reading
CADC: Unreasonable retention of property after a case is resolved can violate 4A
Looking to the common law, unreasonable retention of property after a case is resolved can violate the Fourth Amendment. Asinor v. District of Columbia, 2024 U.S. App. LEXIS 20098 (D.C. Cir. Aug. 9, 2024):
NE: Return of property denied where post-conviction time hadn’t run
Defendant’s motion for return of property is denied because the time hasn’t run for post-conviction and it still may be needed by the state. State v. Assad, 317 Neb. 20 (July 5, 2024). Defendant did not present a real Franks … Continue reading
CA5: CBP dog sniffing for people was PC even if it couldn’t differentiate between the driver and alleged hidden passengers
A CBP dog trained to sniff for people provided reasonable suspicion even against the argument of how the dog could differentiate between the truck driver and hidden passengers. United States v. Martinez, 2024 U.S. App. LEXIS 12043 (5th Cir. May … Continue reading
N.D.Okla.: Cell phones possessed by tribal police not subject to return under Rule 41(g)
Motion for return of cell phones is denied. They are in the possession of the Muskogee Creek Nation tribal police, not the federal government. United States v. Smith, 2024 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 87341 (N.D. Okla. May 15, 2024). Motion for … Continue reading
PA: With PC, moving a car to a police location for a SW was reasonable
Probable cause was developed on the streets for search of defendant’s car for drug evidence when officers saw him take money, return to the car, get something small, and return to the payor, twice. Removing the car to a different … Continue reading
E.D.Cal.: Motion for return of property can’t be granted while criminal proceedings still pending
A motion for return of property involved in a criminal case can’t be entertained until all proceedings have concluded. Here, the 2255 has neither been filed nor resolved. United States v. Kindley, 2024 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 31431 (E.D. Cal. Feb. … Continue reading
CA9: Wholesale inventory searches of private safe deposit boxes in SW for business was unreasonable
US Private Vaults case reversed. The search of USPV’s 700 safe deposit boxes for inventory was unreasonable. The FBI obtained a warrant for USPV’s business because of its business practices, and this search of the safe deposit boxes of customers … Continue reading
OH6: Return of property can’t be by motion to suppress after PG
Defendant’s motion for return of his cell phone after his guilty plea was pled as a motion to suppress. Denied. He can do it over if he gets it right. State v. Cousino, 2024-Ohio-114, 2024 Ohio App. LEXIS 110 (6th … Continue reading
OH8: State showed need for evidence for further investigation after indictment dismissed without prejudice so no return
Evidence was seized, including a cell phone, and defendant was charged with a violent crime. As the case progressed to trial, the state moved to dismiss without prejudice so it could investigate further. Defendant sought return of the evidence. On … Continue reading
CA2: Pending 2255 petition justifies denial of Rule 41(g) petition
The business’s petition for return of records obtained by search warrant and grand jury subpoena is denied. The business’s principal is still litigating his criminal case and a 2255 is pending, and that justifies it. Allen v. Grist Mill Capital … Continue reading
S.D.N.Y.: If the SW lacks PC, the remedy is a motion to suppress, not a motion to rescind the SW via 41(g)
Defendant filed a motion for the court to rescind the search warrant for his cell phone under Rule 41(g) because it was allegedly defective. The remedy is a motion to suppress, not to rescind. United States v. Cardenas, 2023 U.S. … Continue reading
S.D.Cal.: A pending forfeiture action in another district justifies dismissal of Rule 41(g) motion because there is another remedy
This is a Rule 41(g) action for return of property, a superyacht owned by a Russian oligarch seized allegedly in violation of Russian sanctions. The next day, a forfeiture action was filed in the S.D.N.Y., and that provided an adequate … Continue reading
OH11: Person seeking return of property seized need not provide actual evidence in the petition
In a petition for return of property seized from a business, it was only required to show a possessory interest and likelihood of return. An evidentiary quality response isn’t required. State v. Allen, 2023-Ohio-4032, 2023 Ohio App. LEXIS 3869 (11th … Continue reading