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"If it was easy, everybody would be doing it. It isn't, and they don't."
—Me -
"Life is not a matter of holding good cards, but of playing a poor hand well."
–Josh Billings (pseudonym of Henry Wheeler Shaw), Josh Billings on Ice, and Other Things (1868) (erroneously attributed to Robert Louis Stevenson, among others) -
“I am still learning.”
—Domenico Giuntalodi (but misattributed to Michelangelo Buonarroti (common phrase throughout 1500's)). -
"Love work; hate mastery over others; and avoid intimacy with the government."
—Shemaya, in the Thalmud -
"It is a pleasant world we live in, sir, a very pleasant world. There are bad people in it, Mr. Richard, but if there were no bad people, there would be no good lawyers."
—Charles Dickens, “The Old Curiosity Shop ... With a Frontispiece. From a Painting by Geo. Cattermole, Etc.” 255 (1848) -
"A system of law that not only makes certain conduct criminal, but also lays down rules for the conduct of the authorities, often becomes complex in its application to individual cases, and will from time to time produce imperfect results, especially if one's attention is confined to the particular case at bar. Some criminals do go free because of the necessity of keeping government and its servants in their place. That is one of the costs of having and enforcing a Bill of Rights. This country is built on the assumption that the cost is worth paying, and that in the long run we are all both freer and safer if the Constitution is strictly enforced."
—Williams v. Nix, 700 F. 2d 1164, 1173 (8th Cir. 1983) (Richard Sheppard Arnold, J.), rev'd Nix v. Williams, 467 US. 431 (1984). -
"The criminal goes free, if he must, but it is the law that sets him free. Nothing can destroy a government more quickly than its failure to observe its own laws, or worse, its disregard of the charter of its own existence."
—Mapp v. Ohio, 367 U.S. 643, 659 (1961). -
"Any costs the exclusionary rule are costs imposed directly by the Fourth Amendment."
—Yale Kamisar, 86 Mich.L.Rev. 1, 36 n. 151 (1987). -
"There have been powerful hydraulic pressures throughout our history that bear heavily on the Court to water down constitutional guarantees and give the police the upper hand. That hydraulic pressure has probably never been greater than it is today."
— Terry v. Ohio, 392 U.S. 1, 39 (1968) (Douglas, J., dissenting). -
"The great end, for which men entered into society, was to secure their property."
—Entick v. Carrington, 19 How.St.Tr. 1029, 1066, 95 Eng. Rep. 807 (C.P. 1765) -
"It is a fair summary of history to say that the safeguards of liberty have frequently been forged in controversies involving not very nice people. And so, while we are concerned here with a shabby defrauder, we must deal with his case in the context of what are really the great themes expressed by the Fourth Amendment."
—United States v. Rabinowitz, 339 U.S. 56, 69 (1950) (Frankfurter, J., dissenting) -
"The course of true law pertaining to searches and seizures, as enunciated here, has not–to put it mildly–run smooth."
—Chapman v. United States, 365 U.S. 610, 618 (1961) (Frankfurter, J., concurring). -
"A search is a search, even if it happens to disclose nothing but the bottom of a turntable."
—Arizona v. Hicks, 480 U.S. 321, 325 (1987) -
"For the Fourth Amendment protects people, not places. What a person knowingly exposes to the public, even in his own home or office, is not a subject of Fourth Amendment protection. ... But what he seeks to preserve as private, even in an area accessible to the public, may be constitutionally protected."
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“Experience should teach us to be most on guard to protect liberty when the Government’s purposes are beneficent. Men born to freedom are naturally alert to repel invasion of their liberty by evil-minded
rulers. The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well-meaning but without understanding.”
—United States v. Olmstead, 277 U.S. 438, 479 (1925) (Brandeis, J., dissenting)
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“Liberty—the freedom from unwarranted intrusion by government—is as easily lost through insistent nibbles by government officials who seek to do their jobs too well as by those whose purpose it is to oppress; the piranha can be as deadly as the shark.”
—United States v. $124,570, 873 F.2d 1240, 1246 (9th Cir. 1989) -
"You can't always get what you want / But if you try sometimes / You just might find / You get what you need."
—Mick Jagger & Keith Richards, Let it Bleed (album, 1969) -
"In Germany, they first came for the communists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a communist. Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew. Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist. Then they came for
the Catholics and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Catholic. Then they came
for me–and by that time there was nobody left to speak up."
—Martin Niemöller (1945) [he served seven years in a concentration camp] -
“Children grow up thinking the adult world is ordered, rational, fit for purpose. It’s crap. Becoming a man is realising that it’s all rotten. Realising how to celebrate that rottenness, that’s freedom.”
– John le Carré, The Night Manager (1993), line by Richard Roper -
"The point of the Fourth Amendment, which often is not grasped by zealous officers, is not that it denies law enforcement the support of the usual inferences which reasonable men draw from evidence. Its protection consists in requiring that those inferences be drawn by a neutral and detached magistrate instead of being judged by the officer engaged in the often competitive enterprise of ferreting out crime."
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The book was dedicated in the first (1982) and sixth (2025) editions to Justin William Hall (1975-2025). He was three when this project started in 1978.
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Category Archives: Reasonableness
LA1: SW not required under automobile exception
Defendant was involved in a struggle with another in a car, and he reached for the console to open it, and a gun was briefly visible. When he was finally arrested, a warrant was not required for search of the … Continue reading
S.D.N.Y.: 10-14 month old information sought on cell phone SW in fraud case wasn’t stale
Defendant’s car was stopped for no front license plate, and he was found to be without a valid DL. The car was towed to the 44th Precinct and inventoried, and two cell phones were seized. An officer at another precinct … Continue reading
CA6: “The Fourth Amendment does not require an officer to be right, only to be reasonable.”
As to probable cause: “The Fourth Amendment does not require an officer to be right, only to be reasonable.” Allen v. City of Ecorse, 2021 U.S. App. LEXIS 34348 (6th Cir. Nov. 18, 2021). Defendant’s guilty plea included a comprehensive … Continue reading
D.N.M.: DEA can make a traffic stop under 4A
It is not unreasonable under the Fourth Amendment for a DEA agent to stop a car on state highways for an alleged traffic violation. There was probable cause for an automobile exception search. United States v. Vallejos, 2021 U.S. Dist. … Continue reading
W.D.Pa.: GFE applies to warrantless stop based on reasonable mistake of fact
The good faith exception is here directly applied to a warrantless stop and resulting search because of a “reasonable” mistake of law. United States v. McBroom, 2021 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 215219 (W.D.Pa. Nov. 8. 2021):
UT: DNA SW can be executed by force; def has burden of showing unreasonable force was used to execute a DNA warrant on his person
A search warrant was issued for defendant’s DNA, and he resisted efforts to take it by buccal swab. He doesn’t challenge the probable cause, only the method of execution. He carries the burden of proof on the question of unreasonableness … Continue reading
W.D.N.Y.: Failure to preserve a recording of issuance of a SW required by NY law is not a 4A issue
Failure to preserve a recording of issuance of a search warrant as required by New York law is not a Fourth Amendment issue. United States v. Bailey, 2021 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 212869 (W.D.N.Y. Nov. 3, 2021). “Recognizing that this case … Continue reading
CA9: State’s seeking CSLI with PC but under wrong statute not 4A violation
Probable cause was shown for CSLI before the state judge, but the state sought the order under the wrong statute. That doesn’t violate the Fourth Amendment. United States v. Fregia, 2021 U.S. App. LEXIS 32587 (9th Cir. Nov. 2, 2021). … Continue reading
N.D.Ohio: Providing the wrong rental agreement for the car led to more questions and then RS
“[I]t was reasonable for Trooper Burgett to suspect that criminal conduct was afoot. The stop was initially for a mere traffic infraction, but when Defendant Sanders provided the wrong rental agreement, things shifted. The incorrect rental agreement was a catalyst … Continue reading
N.D.Ohio: Frisk just for “officer safety” during traffic stop was unreasonable
Defendant was stopped for having no rearview mirror inside. A frisk for weapons for “officer safety” was unwarranted. Motion to suppress granted. United States v. Jarvis, 2021 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 199592 (N.D.Ohio Oct. 18, 2021). The officer’s alleged violation of … Continue reading
W.D.Ark.: Scar on defendant’s thumb could be photographed on booking
During fingerprinting on defendant’s arrest when he came in with defense counsel, DHS officers noticed a scar on his thumb, and they photographed it as a part of the identification process. This violated neither the Fourth or Sixth Amendment under … Continue reading
CNS: High court hears debate over civil rights claims for dismissed charges
Courthouse News Service: High court hears debate over civil rights claims for dismissed charges by Alexandra Jones (“In a case lodged by a father who says he was wrongly accused of sexually abusing his infant daughter, the Supreme Court heard … Continue reading
CA10: Inventory was reasonable, and counsel’s admission at oral argument was binding
“For these reasons, we conclude that the officers had a reasonable, non-pretextual, community-caretaker rationale for impoundment: securing an uninsured vehicle on the side of a public road with inadequate taillights until a licensed driver with a legitimate connection to the … Continue reading
CA11: Mistaken identity arrest on 26 year old warrant was reasonable where names were same but DOB was not
This mistaken identity arrest was reasonable. The name and gender were the same but the DOB was not. The warrant was 26 years old. Sosa v. Martin County, 2021 U.S. App. LEXIS 28401 (11th Cir. Sept. 20, 2021):
CA11: Officer’s interpretation of obstructed LPN statute was objectively reasonable under Heien
Defendant’s argument that an Alabama statute on obstructed license plates could not apply to nonresident license plates was subject to reasonable mistake of fact or law under Heien. United States v. Braddy, 19-12823 (11th Cir. Aug. 31, 2021). The Los … Continue reading
CA8: Usually no REP in car carried by car hauler even to owner, and here there was nothing showing REP
“During a safety inspection of a semi transporting three vehicles, an officer found about 40 pounds of meth in a Ford Explorer. Sierra-Serrano wants to suppress those drugs, arguing that the search violated the Fourth Amendment. But because Sierra did … Continue reading
GA: Three year delay in searching cell phone not unreasonable on these facts
Nearly three year delay between seizure of defendant’s cell phone and electronics and their search was not unreasonable here where defendant was in jail throughout and thus he had a far diminished possessory interest. Nelson v. State, S21A0773 (Ga. Sept. … Continue reading
CA10: An order to get out of a car does not unreasonably prolong the stop
An order to get out of a car does not unreasonably prolong the stop. United States v. Malone, 2021 U.S. App. LEXIS 26136 (10th Cir. Aug. 30, 2021). Summarizing the law:
CA8: 38 seconds of additional questions of passenger while ticket being written didn’t unreasonably extend stop
The second officer on the scene did not materially extend the stop by 38 seconds of additional questioning of the passenger while the first officer was writing a ticket. United States v. Salkil, 2021 U.S. App. LEXIS 25511 (8th Cir. … Continue reading