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"Life is not a matter of holding good cards, but of playing a poor hand well."
–Josh Billings (pseudonym of Henry Wheeler Shaw), Josh Billings on Ice, and Other Things (1868) (erroneously attributed to Robert Louis Stevenson, among others) -
“I am still learning.”
—Domenico Giuntalodi (but misattributed to Michelangelo Buonarroti (common phrase throughout 1500's)). -
"Love work; hate mastery over others; and avoid intimacy with the government."
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"It is a pleasant world we live in, sir, a very pleasant world. There are bad people in it, Mr. Richard, but if there were no bad people, there would be no good lawyers."
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"A system of law that not only makes certain conduct criminal, but also lays down rules for the conduct of the authorities, often becomes complex in its application to individual cases, and will from time to time produce imperfect results, especially if one's attention is confined to the particular case at bar. Some criminals do go free because of the necessity of keeping government and its servants in their place. That is one of the costs of having and enforcing a Bill of Rights. This country is built on the assumption that the cost is worth paying, and that in the long run we are all both freer and safer if the Constitution is strictly enforced."
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"The criminal goes free, if he must, but it is the law that sets him free. Nothing can destroy a government more quickly than its failure to observe its own laws, or worse, its disregard of the charter of its own existence."
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"Any costs the exclusionary rule are costs imposed directly by the Fourth Amendment."
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"There have been powerful hydraulic pressures throughout our history that bear heavily on the Court to water down constitutional guarantees and give the police the upper hand. That hydraulic pressure has probably never been greater than it is today."
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"The great end, for which men entered into society, was to secure their property."
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"It is a fair summary of history to say that the safeguards of liberty have frequently been forged in controversies involving not very nice people. And so, while we are concerned here with a shabby defrauder, we must deal with his case in the context of what are really the great themes expressed by the Fourth Amendment."
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"The course of true law pertaining to searches and seizures, as enunciated here, has not–to put it mildly–run smooth."
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"A search is a search, even if it happens to disclose nothing but the bottom of a turntable."
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"For the Fourth Amendment protects people, not places. What a person knowingly exposes to the public, even in his own home or office, is not a subject of Fourth Amendment protection. ... But what he seeks to preserve as private, even in an area accessible to the public, may be constitutionally protected."
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“Experience should teach us to be most on guard to protect liberty when the Government’s purposes are beneficent. Men born to freedom are naturally alert to repel invasion of their liberty by evil-minded
rulers. The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well-meaning but without understanding.”
—United States v. Olmstead, 277 U.S. 438, 479 (1925) (Brandeis, J., dissenting)
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“Liberty—the freedom from unwarranted intrusion by government—is as easily lost through insistent nibbles by government officials who seek to do their jobs too well as by those whose purpose it is to oppress; the piranha can be as deadly as the shark.”
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"You can't always get what you want / But if you try sometimes / You just might find / You get what you need."
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"In Germany, they first came for the communists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a communist. Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew. Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist. Then they came for
the Catholics and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Catholic. Then they came
for me–and by that time there was nobody left to speak up."
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“Children grow up thinking the adult world is ordered, rational, fit for purpose. It’s crap. Becoming a man is realising that it’s all rotten. Realising how to celebrate that rottenness, that’s freedom.”
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"The point of the Fourth Amendment, which often is not grasped by zealous officers, is not that it denies law enforcement the support of the usual inferences which reasonable men draw from evidence. Its protection consists in requiring that those inferences be drawn by a neutral and detached magistrate instead of being judged by the officer engaged in the often competitive enterprise of ferreting out crime."
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Category Archives: Reasonable suspicion
Yale L.J.: “The Ostensible (and, at Times, Actual) Virtue of Deference” to police expertise
Anthony O’Rourke, The Ostensible (and, at Times, Actual) Virtue of Deference, Yale L. Journal (Nov. 30, 2021), at note 36:
PA: Sometimes a police-citizen encounter is “a legal fiction” in an “Alice in Wonderland scenario,” like here, but they’re bound by it
The officers’ seeing the outline of a gun on defendant’s person as they drove by justified their turning around and encountering him. Under existing law, “a legal fiction” in an “Alice in Wonderland scenario” the court is bound by, defendant … Continue reading
D.Neb.: Jardines does not prohibit a knock-and-talk
Jardines does not prohibit a knock-and-talk as long as the officers enter via the normal path. United States v. Hartford, 2021 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 226452 (D.Neb. Nov. 24, 2021). A protective sweep of defendant’s car was reasonable, despite his being … Continue reading
N.D.Tex.: Syringe in back pocket was in plain view
The court finds the syringe in defendant’s back pocket was in plain view. United States v. Riggins, 2021 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 224594 (N.D.Tex. Nov. 22, 2021).* Defendant’s stop wasn’t unreasonably prolonged, so the dash and bodycam videos are not suppressed. … Continue reading
S.D.N.Y. Bankr.: Law firm in bankruptcy from missing trust account money gets a hearing on return of items seized under SW of the local DA
This is a civil contempt of bankruptcy court. The debtor is a law firm that declared bankruptcy because $8 million in trust account funds are missing. The DA executed a search warrant on the law firm records. The debtor wants … Continue reading
D.Mass.: SW for premises included def’s separate locked bedroom
The search warrant for the premises also permitted a search of defendant’s locked separate bedroom only accessible from the common area. United States v. Cecchetelli, 2021 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 224649 (D.Mass. Nov. 22, 2021). A host of things added up … Continue reading
WV: Witness recantation doesn’t per se eliminate PC; it is a factor to consider
A witness’s recantation is a factor for the prosecutor to consider in deciding whether to pursue charges. It does not mean that all probable cause is gone. Fall v. Ames, 2021 W. Va. LEXIS 640 (Nov. 19, 2021). The particularity … Continue reading
GA: Minor inconsistencies between driver and passenger during stop aren’t RS
Nervousness is normal during a traffic stop. “Lastly, inconsistencies in answers to police questions do not give rise to reasonable articulable suspicion unless the inconsistencies in the car occupants’ statements are meaningful.” These weren’t, so there was no reasonable suspicion. … Continue reading
S.D.N.Y.: 10-14 month old information sought on cell phone SW in fraud case wasn’t stale
Defendant’s car was stopped for no front license plate, and he was found to be without a valid DL. The car was towed to the 44th Precinct and inventoried, and two cell phones were seized. An officer at another precinct … Continue reading
E.D.Wash.: Covid-19 testing requirements are not subject to 4A reasonable suspicion standard
“Plaintiff argues any COVID-19 testing requirement is subject to the reasonable suspicion standards under the Fourth Amendment. … However, the Proclamation does not contain or implicate a testing requirement. … Therefore, Plaintiff’s Fourth Amendment claim is without merit. Plaintiff has … Continue reading
OH5: Employer’s call to police def was probably driving drunk was RS
A Home Depot employee was sent home for working under the influence of alcohol. They used a PBT on him, and he was twice the limit. They tried to arrange a ride for him, but he attempted to drive off … Continue reading
NC: Undated Facebook screenshots as a part of PC showed enduring utility in what was sought, so not stale
Defendant’s argument is that Facebook screenshots showing probable cause in the affidavit for the search warrant don’t specify dates of the electronic data that’s being sought from his place. What was being sought is of enduring utility by its nature, … Continue reading
D.Conn.: Protective sweep led to seizure of cell phone in plain view
Officers conducted a valid protective sweep and found defendant’s cell phone. It was seized in plain view, and then a search warrant was obtained for it. All searches were valid. United States v. Salaman, 2021 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 219785 (D.Conn. … Continue reading
CA3: Federal court should abstain from entering state court red-flag proceeding
Federal court should abstain under Younger from a state red-flag law proceeding to remove firearms from the plaintiff. Greco v. Bruck, 2021 U.S. App. LEXIS 33660 (3d Cir. Nov. 12, 2021). Defendant’s being in an alley known for druggies and … Continue reading
D.Kan.: Felon in possession’s intentionally shooting himself and calling 911 led to reasonable entry
Defendant intentionally shot himself in the leg and called 911 for help. Police arrived and seized the gun, and he was a felon. The entry and remaining in the house was reasonable. United States v. Culpepper, 2021 U.S. Dist. LEXIS … Continue reading
Cal.2: Either RS or PC required for order to put hands on hood of police car
There was neither probable cause nor reasonable suspicion to order defendant to put his hands on the hood of the police car, and it was a seizure without justification. “We conclude that there was neither probable cause to arrest appellant … Continue reading
GA: Probationer was unreasonably detained as suspect in a crime where he didn’t match
The state failed in its burden of proof that defendant was lawfully stopped and then detained as a possible suspect in a crime even though he was a probationer. His clothing didn’t match. It was prolonged way past its justification. … Continue reading
E.D.Mich.: Laptop computer left in the former marital home for a decade is abandoned
A laptop computer left in the former marital home for a decade is abandoned property. United States v. Hartley, 2021 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 212137 (E.D.Mich. Nov. 3, 2021). Petitioner seeks to bring five claims in a successor habeas petition, and … Continue reading
CA1: On a Franks claim based on omissions, add them in and retest for PC
With a Franks claim based on omissions, the court can consider the omissions and, if probable cause remains, the motion to suppress is denied. United States v. Leonard, 2021 U.S. App. LEXIS 32740 (1st Cir. Nov. 3, 2021). “Here, viewing … Continue reading
IA: No REP in attorney call from interrogation room
Defendant’s in-custody call to his attorney was overheard by the recording system in the room. There was no reasonable expectation of privacy where it was made. Luthi v. Neis, 2021 Iowa App. LEXIS 930 (Nov. 3, 2021). The trial court … Continue reading