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"If it was easy, everybody would be doing it. It isn't, and they don't."
—Me -
"Life is not a matter of holding good cards, but of playing a poor hand well."
–Josh Billings (pseudonym of Henry Wheeler Shaw), Josh Billings on Ice, and Other Things (1868) (erroneously attributed to Robert Louis Stevenson, among others) -
“I am still learning.”
—Domenico Giuntalodi (but misattributed to Michelangelo Buonarroti (common phrase throughout 1500's)). -
"Love work; hate mastery over others; and avoid intimacy with the government."
—Shemaya, in the Thalmud -
"It is a pleasant world we live in, sir, a very pleasant world. There are bad people in it, Mr. Richard, but if there were no bad people, there would be no good lawyers."
—Charles Dickens, “The Old Curiosity Shop ... With a Frontispiece. From a Painting by Geo. Cattermole, Etc.” 255 (1848) -
"A system of law that not only makes certain conduct criminal, but also lays down rules for the conduct of the authorities, often becomes complex in its application to individual cases, and will from time to time produce imperfect results, especially if one's attention is confined to the particular case at bar. Some criminals do go free because of the necessity of keeping government and its servants in their place. That is one of the costs of having and enforcing a Bill of Rights. This country is built on the assumption that the cost is worth paying, and that in the long run we are all both freer and safer if the Constitution is strictly enforced."
—Williams v. Nix, 700 F. 2d 1164, 1173 (8th Cir. 1983) (Richard Sheppard Arnold, J.), rev'd Nix v. Williams, 467 US. 431 (1984). -
"The criminal goes free, if he must, but it is the law that sets him free. Nothing can destroy a government more quickly than its failure to observe its own laws, or worse, its disregard of the charter of its own existence."
—Mapp v. Ohio, 367 U.S. 643, 659 (1961). -
"Any costs the exclusionary rule are costs imposed directly by the Fourth Amendment."
—Yale Kamisar, 86 Mich.L.Rev. 1, 36 n. 151 (1987). -
"There have been powerful hydraulic pressures throughout our history that bear heavily on the Court to water down constitutional guarantees and give the police the upper hand. That hydraulic pressure has probably never been greater than it is today."
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"The great end, for which men entered into society, was to secure their property."
—Entick v. Carrington, 19 How.St.Tr. 1029, 1066, 95 Eng. Rep. 807 (C.P. 1765) -
"It is a fair summary of history to say that the safeguards of liberty have frequently been forged in controversies involving not very nice people. And so, while we are concerned here with a shabby defrauder, we must deal with his case in the context of what are really the great themes expressed by the Fourth Amendment."
—United States v. Rabinowitz, 339 U.S. 56, 69 (1950) (Frankfurter, J., dissenting) -
"The course of true law pertaining to searches and seizures, as enunciated here, has not–to put it mildly–run smooth."
—Chapman v. United States, 365 U.S. 610, 618 (1961) (Frankfurter, J., concurring). -
"A search is a search, even if it happens to disclose nothing but the bottom of a turntable."
—Arizona v. Hicks, 480 U.S. 321, 325 (1987) -
"For the Fourth Amendment protects people, not places. What a person knowingly exposes to the public, even in his own home or office, is not a subject of Fourth Amendment protection. ... But what he seeks to preserve as private, even in an area accessible to the public, may be constitutionally protected."
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“Experience should teach us to be most on guard to protect liberty when the Government’s purposes are beneficent. Men born to freedom are naturally alert to repel invasion of their liberty by evil-minded
rulers. The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well-meaning but without understanding.”
—United States v. Olmstead, 277 U.S. 438, 479 (1925) (Brandeis, J., dissenting)
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“Liberty—the freedom from unwarranted intrusion by government—is as easily lost through insistent nibbles by government officials who seek to do their jobs too well as by those whose purpose it is to oppress; the piranha can be as deadly as the shark.”
—United States v. $124,570, 873 F.2d 1240, 1246 (9th Cir. 1989) -
"You can't always get what you want / But if you try sometimes / You just might find / You get what you need."
—Mick Jagger & Keith Richards, Let it Bleed (album, 1969) -
"In Germany, they first came for the communists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a communist. Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew. Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist. Then they came for
the Catholics and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Catholic. Then they came
for me–and by that time there was nobody left to speak up."
—Martin Niemöller (1945) [he served seven years in a concentration camp] -
“Children grow up thinking the adult world is ordered, rational, fit for purpose. It’s crap. Becoming a man is realising that it’s all rotten. Realising how to celebrate that rottenness, that’s freedom.”
– John le Carré, The Night Manager (1993), line by Richard Roper -
"The point of the Fourth Amendment, which often is not grasped by zealous officers, is not that it denies law enforcement the support of the usual inferences which reasonable men draw from evidence. Its protection consists in requiring that those inferences be drawn by a neutral and detached magistrate instead of being judged by the officer engaged in the often competitive enterprise of ferreting out crime."
—Johnson v. United States, 333 U.S. 10, 13-14 (1948) -
The book was dedicated in the first (1982) and sixth (2025) editions to Justin William Hall (1975-2025). He was three when this project started in 1978.
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Category Archives: Reasonable suspicion
DC: Tripping up def as he fled an encounter was a seizure without RS
D.C. gun recovery unit (GRU) officers stopped and approached defendant in an alley to talk to him. He hesitated and ran, and they ultimately caught him. The stop lacked reasonable suspicion. “Mr. Mayo argues that the GRU officers seized him … Continue reading
N.D.Cal.: PC in the affidavit was lacking, even with its detail; no GFE either
The affidavit for the search warrant for defendant’s place lacked probable cause. “As the affidavit did not establish probable cause as to forgery or possession of stolen property, and the government conceded there was not probable cause to support the … Continue reading
MA: Late disclosure of product of search wasn’t exculpatory so no prejudice
Defendant sought in discovery the call log from the search of his cell phone. The state didn’t provide it timely. It was not exculpatory in trial counsel’s view because it contradicted the defense witnesses and whatever defense they had for … Continue reading
TX8: Purely private search of cell phone not suppressed under art. 38.23(a)
The purely private search of defendant’s cell phone finding child pornography that was reported to police was not subject to exclusion under Texas’s art. 38.23(a). If a laptop search is not subject to exclusion, neither is a cell phone. Horne … Continue reading
N.D.Ohio: Not IAC to not raise every suppression issue def wants
Defense counsel had the discretion not to make every argument defendant wanted on a suppression motion. “It is well within counsel’s constitutional discretion to make the decision to raise or not raise certain arguments at a suppression hearing. That counsel … Continue reading
CA6: Torres v. Madrid not a new constitutional rule for successor habeas
Torres v. Madrid did not announce a new constitutional rule for an ineffective assistance of counsel claim in a successor habeas. In re Foster, 2022 U.S. App. LEXIS 141 (6th Cir. Jan. 3, 2022). “Considering that reasonable suspicion ‘is not, … Continue reading
N.D.Ill.: Stopping work on the traffic ticket when the drug dog arrived resulted in lengthening the detention without RS
“Officer Allen admits that he was not printing the police department’s copy of the first citation or processing the second citation during the drug sniff. Rather, he completely stopped his traffic-related mission as soon as Officer Wiebe arrived and worked … Continue reading
TN: Where car was abandoned, there were no reasonable alternatives to impoundment available to the police
Tennessee recognizes that impoundment and inventory can be avoided if there are reasonable alternatives to it at the time. Here, defendant’s car was abandoned on the road and, when they arrived, it was in the process of being towed and … Continue reading
D.N.M.: Def in a make of car he was prone to steal one hour after its theft was RS
The officer had reasonable suspicion on the totality to detain defendant for car theft. Defendant had a general reputation for that in the community. United States v. Madrigal, 2021 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 247007 (D.N.M. Dec. 28, 2021)* [one of those … Continue reading
D.D.C.: Being “wide eyed” and evading police when seeing them isn’t RS
Defendant getting wide eyed on seeing police and then hiding from them understandably would get their attention, but it’s not reasonable suspicion. United States v. Winecoff, 2021 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 248279 (D.D.C. Dec. 30, 2021):
N.D.Ohio: Def’s psychotherapist reported he was viewing CP; 4A does not prohibit using it in SW application
The psychotherapist-patient privilege does not bar use of a report from defendant’s psychotherapist to law enforcement that defendant admitted viewing child pornography. The psychotherapist discussed with others and concluded that a report was necessary. Whatever the privilege for trial, it … Continue reading
MN: Mere violation of pretrial release conditions not otherwise a crime not RS to extend a traffic stop
An alleged violation of conditions of pretrial release that is not criminal activity does not support extending a traffic stop without reasonable suspicion of an actual crime. State v. Sargent, 2021 Minn. LEXIS 672 (Dec. 29, 2021) (under state constitution):
M.D.N.C.: Return of evidence denied because investigation ongoing
Plaintiff’s action for recovery of electronic and physical evidence seized is denied because the government asserts it is still needed for investigation. Stillwell v. United States, 2021 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 246407 (M.D.N.C. Dec. 28, 2021). Defendant was stopped for driving … Continue reading
OH11: Plain view during FD response to fire leading to call to police was reasonable
Defendant’s house burned in a fire, and the fire investigator came in before the firemen left. Drugs were found in plain view and in a safe with an open door. The trial court suppressed, but the court of appeals reversed. … Continue reading
NY Kings Co.: Police led def to believe call from interrogation room was private
Defendant had a reasonable expectation of privacy in his telephone call from a precinct interrogation room from being recorded. While there is a diminished expectation of privacy in an interrogation room, there was no warning what happened in the room … Continue reading
IL: Def did not open door to admit suppressed evidence by lying about it
The exception to the exclusionary rule that suppressed evidence can be used for impeachment purposes did not apply to outright perjury about the finding of a gun. Defendant pro se here stated in opening and in cross that the gun … Continue reading
N.D.Ill.: Criminal history questions during traffic stop reasonably related to officer safety
“Officer Nisivaco’s questions about the offense for which Carson was on parole and the recency of his gun offense were permissible, ‘negligibly burdensome precautions’ taken to ensure officer safety. Rodriguez, 575 U.S. at 356.” Asking about whether he was up … Continue reading
HI: Two year delay between seizure and attempted forfeiture of gambling devices violated statute and was unreasonable
Two year delay between seizure of gambling machines under a warrant and initiating forfeiture proceedings was unreasonable. “In conclusion, the failure of HPD and the Prosecutor to comply with the twenty day and forty-five day statutory deadlines contained in HRS … Continue reading
TX4: Def abandoned his totaled car when it went to auto auction; black box search didn’t need a warrant
Defendant’s car was totaled in a wreck. He never came to get it or the stuff from it. His insurance company sent it to an auto auction for disposal. The police went there and retrieved the black box information without … Continue reading
NM: Tow and inventory of vehicle parked in owner’s driveway was unreasonable
The tow and inventory of the car defendant was driving, his grandmother’s, without a valid license was an abuse of the officer’s discretion. Here, the vehicle was parked in the grandmother’s driveway when the stop occurred. The officer’s practice of … Continue reading