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"If it was easy, everybody would be doing it. It isn't, and they don't."
—Me -
"Life is not a matter of holding good cards, but of playing a poor hand well."
–Josh Billings (pseudonym of Henry Wheeler Shaw), Josh Billings on Ice, and Other Things (1868) (erroneously attributed to Robert Louis Stevenson, among others) -
“I am still learning.”
—Domenico Giuntalodi (but misattributed to Michelangelo Buonarroti (common phrase throughout 1500's)). -
"Love work; hate mastery over others; and avoid intimacy with the government."
—Shemaya, in the Thalmud -
"It is a pleasant world we live in, sir, a very pleasant world. There are bad people in it, Mr. Richard, but if there were no bad people, there would be no good lawyers."
—Charles Dickens, “The Old Curiosity Shop ... With a Frontispiece. From a Painting by Geo. Cattermole, Etc.” 255 (1848) -
"A system of law that not only makes certain conduct criminal, but also lays down rules for the conduct of the authorities, often becomes complex in its application to individual cases, and will from time to time produce imperfect results, especially if one's attention is confined to the particular case at bar. Some criminals do go free because of the necessity of keeping government and its servants in their place. That is one of the costs of having and enforcing a Bill of Rights. This country is built on the assumption that the cost is worth paying, and that in the long run we are all both freer and safer if the Constitution is strictly enforced."
—Williams v. Nix, 700 F. 2d 1164, 1173 (8th Cir. 1983) (Richard Sheppard Arnold, J.), rev'd Nix v. Williams, 467 US. 431 (1984). -
"The criminal goes free, if he must, but it is the law that sets him free. Nothing can destroy a government more quickly than its failure to observe its own laws, or worse, its disregard of the charter of its own existence."
—Mapp v. Ohio, 367 U.S. 643, 659 (1961). -
"Any costs the exclusionary rule are costs imposed directly by the Fourth Amendment."
—Yale Kamisar, 86 Mich.L.Rev. 1, 36 n. 151 (1987). -
"There have been powerful hydraulic pressures throughout our history that bear heavily on the Court to water down constitutional guarantees and give the police the upper hand. That hydraulic pressure has probably never been greater than it is today."
— Terry v. Ohio, 392 U.S. 1, 39 (1968) (Douglas, J., dissenting). -
"The great end, for which men entered into society, was to secure their property."
—Entick v. Carrington, 19 How.St.Tr. 1029, 1066, 95 Eng. Rep. 807 (C.P. 1765) -
"It is a fair summary of history to say that the safeguards of liberty have frequently been forged in controversies involving not very nice people. And so, while we are concerned here with a shabby defrauder, we must deal with his case in the context of what are really the great themes expressed by the Fourth Amendment."
—United States v. Rabinowitz, 339 U.S. 56, 69 (1950) (Frankfurter, J., dissenting) -
"The course of true law pertaining to searches and seizures, as enunciated here, has not–to put it mildly–run smooth."
—Chapman v. United States, 365 U.S. 610, 618 (1961) (Frankfurter, J., concurring). -
"A search is a search, even if it happens to disclose nothing but the bottom of a turntable."
—Arizona v. Hicks, 480 U.S. 321, 325 (1987) -
"For the Fourth Amendment protects people, not places. What a person knowingly exposes to the public, even in his own home or office, is not a subject of Fourth Amendment protection. ... But what he seeks to preserve as private, even in an area accessible to the public, may be constitutionally protected."
—Katz v. United States, 389 U.S. 347, 351 (1967) -
“Experience should teach us to be most on guard to protect liberty when the Government’s purposes are beneficent. Men born to freedom are naturally alert to repel invasion of their liberty by evil-minded rulers. The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well-meaning but without understanding.”
—United States v. Olmstead, 277 U.S. 438, 479 (1925) (Brandeis, J., dissenting) -
“Liberty—the freedom from unwarranted intrusion by government—is as easily lost through insistent nibbles by government officials who seek to do their jobs too well as by those whose purpose it is to oppress; the piranha can be as deadly as the shark.”
—United States v. $124,570, 873 F.2d 1240, 1246 (9th Cir. 1989) -
"You can't always get what you want / But if you try sometimes / You just might find / You get what you need."
—Mick Jagger & Keith Richards, Let it Bleed (album, 1969) -
"In Germany, they first came for the communists, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a communist. Then they came for the Jews, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist. Then they came for the Catholics and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Catholic. Then they came for me–and by that time there was nobody left to speak up."
—Martin Niemöller (1945) [he served seven years in a concentration camp] -
“You know, most men would get discouraged by now. Fortunately for you, I am not most men!”
---Pepé Le Pew -
"The point of the Fourth Amendment, which often is not grasped by zealous officers, is not that it denies law enforcement the support of the usual inferences which reasonable men draw from evidence. Its protection consists in requiring that those inferences be drawn by a neutral and detached magistrate instead of being judged by the officer engaged in the often competitive enterprise of ferreting out crime."
—Johnson v. United States, 333 U.S. 10, 13-14 (1948) -
The book was dedicated in the first (1982) and sixth (2025) editions to Justin William Hall (1975-2025). He was three when this project started in 1978.
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Category Archives: Seizure
S.D.Ind.: Parole-probation searches are governed by 4A reasonableness but shaped by state law limiting them
The probation or parole search law and reasonableness is a Fourth Amendment question but it’s shaped by state law on how those searches are permitted as a condition of release. This one was reasonable. United States v. Beechler, 2021 U.S. … Continue reading
ID: Search incident justified by def’s lie about syringe in pocket
Officer’s certain knowledge of a syringe in defendant’s pocket defendant lied about after a consensual patdown for weapons justified a search incident. The officer sought a patdown because of his nervousness. State v. Budka, 2021 Ida. App. LEXIS 20 (May … Continue reading
D.N.J.: Officers pointing guns at a group of men wasn’t necessarily a seizure
Officers pointing their sidearms at a group of men wasn’t necessarily a seizure. At any rate, it was with reasonable suspicion. “Despite Williams’ argument to the contrary …, the officers’ display of their guns, without any physical contact, did not … Continue reading
CA6: SW not required to tear down a condemned building
Once a building is legally condemned, a separate search warrant isn’t required to tear it down. It is then a reasonable seizure. Keene Grp., Inc. v. City of Cincinnati, 2021 U.S. App. LEXIS 15074 (6th Cir. May 20, 2021):
N.D.Ga.: PC shown for cell phone and geo-location data
“The Geo-Location Warrant was supported by probable cause because the affidavit established ‘a connection between the defendant and the location to be searched; a link between the location and criminal activity; and the informant’s veracity and basis of knowledge.’” There … Continue reading
WY: Where the stop exceeds its purpose and becomes unreasonable, the fact it’s de minimus doesn’t make it reasonable
Where the stop exceeded reasonableness, the district court’s finding it was de minimus was error. It was less than the time for the dog sniff, but the dog had time to arrive. Mahaffy v. State, 2021 Wyo. LEXIS 71 (May … Continue reading
CA2: Failure to promptly return property lawfully seized isn’t separate 4A claim
Where firearms were lawfully seized, there isn’t a separate Fourth Amendment claim for failure to promptly return them. Bello v. Rockland Cty., 2021 U.S. App. LEXIS 13281 (2d Cir. May 5, 2021). Probable cause is required for administrative subpoenas under … Continue reading
CA7: Pre-Carpenter real time CSLI tracking def on streets to locate him before he committed another robbery was not unreasonable
The fact officers had probable cause to arrest is considered in determining good faith. In addition, “To conclude, we hold that Detective Ghiringhelli did not conduct a Fourth Amendment ‘search’ by requesting the real-time CSLI of a suspect for multiple … Continue reading
NC: Officer waving down a motorist at 3 am was a seizure
“The issue in this case is whether a driver is “seized” within the meaning of the Fourth Amendment when he is tailed by a marked police cruiser down empty streets at 3 a.m., followed into an empty parking lot, and … Continue reading
CA4: Def had burden on GFE, and he failed
Assuming without deciding the probable cause question, defendant fails to prove that the good faith exception should not be applied. United States v. Parrish, 2021 U.S. App. LEXIS 10533 (4th Cir. Apr. 13, 2021). The officer had probable cause to … Continue reading
W.D.Tenn.: CI’s tip def had a gun was corroborated by def discarding it in view of officers
Police received a CI’s tip defendant had a gun. The tip alone lacked reliability until the officer saw defendant discard it. “Notably, the reasonable suspicion standard does not present the most demanding hurdle to overcome. See Kansas v. Glover, 140 … Continue reading
W.D.Mo.: Pushing down the ptf causing injury was a seizure
The officer pushing down the plaintiff causing injury was a seizure. “A reasonable officer in Sasse’s position would not have thought it appropriate to shove Martinez so forcefully without first at least requesting that Martinez step back or step away … Continue reading
OH2: SW for BAC executed in 5 hrs was “as soon as possible”
The search warrant for a blood draw said it had to be within 3 hours [a statutory artifact] and as soon as possible, but it took 5. The trial court found it was executed as soon as possible, and that’s … Continue reading
E.D.N.Y.: Summons to appear is not a 4A seizure
A summons to appear is not a seizure. Jianjun Li v. Village of Saddle Rock, 2021 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 60705 (E.D. N.Y. Mar. 30, 2021). New York statute that special prosecutors have to give notice to elected DAs about, inter … Continue reading
CA6: No interstate commerce nexus needed for a federal search and seizure
There is no interstate commerce predicate to a federal search and seizure. Defendant cites no authority and the court doesn’t find one. United States v. Watson, 2021 U.S. App. LEXIS 8564 n.3 (6th Cir. Mar. 22, 2021). Remanded a second … Continue reading
SCOTUS: Shooting at and hitting a person fleeing is a 4A seizure: “The required corporal seizing or touching the defendant’s body … can be as readily accomplished by a bullet as by the end of a finger.”
Shooting at and hitting plaintiff with the intent to stop her flight is an attempted seizure under the Fourth Amendment. She made it 75 miles to a hospital, was airlifted back, and was arrested. (Qualified immunity is not decided here.) … Continue reading
CA5: 4A generally only applies to pretrial govt activities
The Fourth Amendment only applies to pretrial alleged constitutional deprivations. Trial related constraints are not Fourth Amendment issues. United States v. Emakoji, 2021 U.S. App. LEXIS 6843 (5th Cir. Mar. 9, 2021):
Reason: Sotomayor Invokes Scalia on Fourth Amendment Protections
Reason: Sotomayor Invokes Scalia on Fourth Amendment Protections by Damon Root (“Does the Fourth Amendment right to be free from unreasonable seizures include the right to be free from an unreasonable attempted seizure?”)
OR: “[J]ust keep your hands where I can see them” is a seizure
“[J]ust keep your hands where I can see them” is a seizure under the Oregon Constitution. State v. Soto-Navarro, 309 Ore. App. 218 (Feb. 10, 2021):
CA9: Passenger also shot in effort to stop vehicle was seized under 4A; SJ denied on reasonableness of force
A vehicle passenger who was not intentionally targeted by the officers had a cognizable Fourth Amendment interest under Brower v. County of Inyo and Brendlin v. California. His freedom of movement was terminated when the officers intentionally shot at the … Continue reading