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"If it was easy, everybody would be doing it. It isn't, and they don't."
—Me -
"Life is not a matter of holding good cards, but of playing a poor hand well."
–Josh Billings (pseudonym of Henry Wheeler Shaw), Josh Billings on Ice, and Other Things (1868) (erroneously attributed to Robert Louis Stevenson, among others) -
“I am still learning.”
—Domenico Giuntalodi (but misattributed to Michelangelo Buonarroti (common phrase throughout 1500's)). -
"Love work; hate mastery over others; and avoid intimacy with the government."
—Shemaya, in the Thalmud -
"It is a pleasant world we live in, sir, a very pleasant world. There are bad people in it, Mr. Richard, but if there were no bad people, there would be no good lawyers."
—Charles Dickens, “The Old Curiosity Shop ... With a Frontispiece. From a Painting by Geo. Cattermole, Etc.” 255 (1848) -
"A system of law that not only makes certain conduct criminal, but also lays down rules for the conduct of the authorities, often becomes complex in its application to individual cases, and will from time to time produce imperfect results, especially if one's attention is confined to the particular case at bar. Some criminals do go free because of the necessity of keeping government and its servants in their place. That is one of the costs of having and enforcing a Bill of Rights. This country is built on the assumption that the cost is worth paying, and that in the long run we are all both freer and safer if the Constitution is strictly enforced."
—Williams v. Nix, 700 F. 2d 1164, 1173 (8th Cir. 1983) (Richard Sheppard Arnold, J.), rev'd Nix v. Williams, 467 US. 431 (1984). -
"The criminal goes free, if he must, but it is the law that sets him free. Nothing can destroy a government more quickly than its failure to observe its own laws, or worse, its disregard of the charter of its own existence."
—Mapp v. Ohio, 367 U.S. 643, 659 (1961). -
"Any costs the exclusionary rule are costs imposed directly by the Fourth Amendment."
—Yale Kamisar, 86 Mich.L.Rev. 1, 36 n. 151 (1987). -
"There have been powerful hydraulic pressures throughout our history that bear heavily on the Court to water down constitutional guarantees and give the police the upper hand. That hydraulic pressure has probably never been greater than it is today."
— Terry v. Ohio, 392 U.S. 1, 39 (1968) (Douglas, J., dissenting). -
"The great end, for which men entered into society, was to secure their property."
—Entick v. Carrington, 19 How.St.Tr. 1029, 1066, 95 Eng. Rep. 807 (C.P. 1765) -
"It is a fair summary of history to say that the safeguards of liberty have frequently been forged in controversies involving not very nice people. And so, while we are concerned here with a shabby defrauder, we must deal with his case in the context of what are really the great themes expressed by the Fourth Amendment."
—United States v. Rabinowitz, 339 U.S. 56, 69 (1950) (Frankfurter, J., dissenting) -
"The course of true law pertaining to searches and seizures, as enunciated here, has not–to put it mildly–run smooth."
—Chapman v. United States, 365 U.S. 610, 618 (1961) (Frankfurter, J., concurring). -
"A search is a search, even if it happens to disclose nothing but the bottom of a turntable."
—Arizona v. Hicks, 480 U.S. 321, 325 (1987) -
"For the Fourth Amendment protects people, not places. What a person knowingly exposes to the public, even in his own home or office, is not a subject of Fourth Amendment protection. ... But what he seeks to preserve as private, even in an area accessible to the public, may be constitutionally protected."
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“Experience should teach us to be most on guard to protect liberty when the Government’s purposes are beneficent. Men born to freedom are naturally alert to repel invasion of their liberty by evil-minded
rulers. The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well-meaning but without understanding.”
—United States v. Olmstead, 277 U.S. 438, 479 (1925) (Brandeis, J., dissenting)
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“Liberty—the freedom from unwarranted intrusion by government—is as easily lost through insistent nibbles by government officials who seek to do their jobs too well as by those whose purpose it is to oppress; the piranha can be as deadly as the shark.”
—United States v. $124,570, 873 F.2d 1240, 1246 (9th Cir. 1989) -
"You can't always get what you want / But if you try sometimes / You just might find / You get what you need."
—Mick Jagger & Keith Richards, Let it Bleed (album, 1969) -
"In Germany, they first came for the communists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a communist. Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew. Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist. Then they came for
the Catholics and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Catholic. Then they came
for me–and by that time there was nobody left to speak up."
—Martin Niemöller (1945) [he served seven years in a concentration camp] -
“Children grow up thinking the adult world is ordered, rational, fit for purpose. It’s crap. Becoming a man is realising that it’s all rotten. Realising how to celebrate that rottenness, that’s freedom.”
– John le Carré, The Night Manager (1993), line by Richard Roper -
"The point of the Fourth Amendment, which often is not grasped by zealous officers, is not that it denies law enforcement the support of the usual inferences which reasonable men draw from evidence. Its protection consists in requiring that those inferences be drawn by a neutral and detached magistrate instead of being judged by the officer engaged in the often competitive enterprise of ferreting out crime."
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The book was dedicated in the first (1982) and sixth (2025) editions to Justin William Hall (1975-2025). He was three when this project started in 1978.
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Category Archives: Reasonable suspicion
OH10: Officers don’t need RS to approach someone on the street
Officers don’t need reasonable suspicion to approach a person for a potential consensual encounter. State v. Howard, 2021-Ohio-1792, 2021 Ohio App. LEXIS 1734 (10th Dist. May 25, 2021). Defendant’s Facebook Live posting of him holding an AK-47 and smoking marijuana … Continue reading
CA6: Disclosure of medical records to LEO by subpoena duces tecum doesn’t violate 4A
“[T]he disclosure of the plaintiffs’ medical records to law enforcement officers for the purpose of investigating Dr. Pompy’s allegedly illegal activities did not violate their Fourth Amendment rights or their constitutional right to privacy.” Micks-Harm v. Nichols, 2021 U.S. App. … Continue reading
CA10: Nexus for CP can logically move when def does
Police had probable cause defendant uploaded child pornography from home. Then he moved. It was reasonable to assume his computers went with him to the new address, so nexus was sufficiently shown for probable cause there. United States v. Kilgore, … Continue reading
AZ: Even if NCMEC was not private actor, it didn’t expand the prior private search
In Arizona, Fourth Amendment claims are decided first, then state constitutional claims. Google+, acting completely on its own, searched defendant’s photos folder stored with there. Moreover, it was only shown to be protecting its private business interests, not aid the … Continue reading
NY1: Pretrial detainee doesn’t have equal protection right not to have jail calls recorded
A pretrial detainee at Riker’s Island didn’t have an equal protection right or a reasonable expectation of privacy in his telephone calls from the jail. People v. Jennings, 2021 NY Slip Op 03262, 2021 N.Y. App. Div. LEXIS 3363 (1st … Continue reading
NY3: Dog sniff of person requires RS
On a matter of first impression, NY’s Third Department concludes that reasonable suspicion is required for a dog sniff of the person, and here there was reasonable suspicion. People v. Butler, 2021 NY Slip Op 03222, 2021 N.Y. App. Div. … Continue reading
KS: Officer’s two calls to dispatch telling him there was a warrant was reasonable under Herring
Defendant’s arrest based on the officer’s two calls to dispatch insisting there was a warrant for defendant was reasonable reliance on a mistake of another under Herring. State v. Gilliland, 2021 Kan. App. LEXIS 21 (May 14, 2021). The French … Continue reading
E.D.N.C.: Window tint violations always require a stop
Window tint violations require a stop to verify. “But the Supreme Court has said that ‘[t]o be reasonable is not to be perfect, and so the Fourth Amendment allows for some mistakes on the part of government officials, giving them … Continue reading
IA: Trespassing on RR property was RS for stop
Defendant’s parking on railroad property was trespassing at least, and it was reasonable for the officer to investigate whether it was drug use or underage drinking, what he’d usually find. “Assuming without deciding King was acting on a mere hunch … Continue reading
D.Colo.: Federal law criminalizing marijuana makes dog sniff in recreational use state reasonable
Even though Colorado has decriminalized personal use of marijuana, a dog sniff is still reasonable under federal law because possession of marijuana is still a violation of federal law because it’s unlawful for “any purpose.” United States v. Spikes, 2021 … Continue reading
PA: Stop for no LPN permitted running names of occupants
Not having a license plate justified defendant’s stop and then running names. Commonwealth v. Malloy, 2021 PA Super 90, 2021 Pa. Super. LEXIS 278 (May 7, 2021). The backup light being on while driving justifies a stop. People v. Ambrose, … Continue reading
CA7: Possibility an interloper put drug residue in trash out for collection doesn’t negate PC or what it might prove
The fact it’s possible that someone else could have dropped drug residue in defendant’s trash container at the street doesn’t negate probable cause. [It also shows the lack of a reasonable expectation of privacy in trash containers at the street.] … Continue reading
Cal.6: Fire capt’s search of cabinet of backyard shed unrelated to house fire wasn’t part of the exigency of the fire
A fire department captain in Santa Clara County searched a cabinet in a shed behind defendant’s house. The fire department was called to a house fire. He was looking for the source of smoke, and it wasn’t readily apparent the … Continue reading
WY: Where the stop exceeds its purpose and becomes unreasonable, the fact it’s de minimus doesn’t make it reasonable
Where the stop exceeded reasonableness, the district court’s finding it was de minimus was error. It was less than the time for the dog sniff, but the dog had time to arrive. Mahaffy v. State, 2021 Wyo. LEXIS 71 (May … Continue reading
KS: 24 minute wait for drug dog with RS wasn’t unreasonable
A wait of 24 minutes for the drug dog to arrive after reasonable suspicion developed was reasonable and not excessive. State v. Arrizabalaga, 2021 Kan. LEXIS 50 (Apr. 30, 2021). The Border Patrol request to local police to stop defendant … Continue reading
KY: Violation of city code doesn’t justify stop
Defendant’s alleged violation of the city code, a violation, didn’t authorize a warrantless arrest and his stop. Commonwealth v. Wilson, 2021 Ky. App. LEXIS 65 (Apr. 30, 2021). Without explanation, there was probable cause for search of defendant’s cell phone … Continue reading
FL1: Def’s setting up date via cell phone app where he sexually battered victim led to PC for SW for his cell phone
Defendant’s victim claimed to the police she was met through a phone app, sexually battered, and robbed. She identified defendant by his truck. “This information would have been enough to obtain a search warrant of Ferguson’s cell phones, even without … Continue reading
W.D.La.: When cash and heroin found in car search, a notebook could be seized
When heroin and cash were found in the search of a car based on the smell of marijuana, seizure of a notebook was reasonable. The notebook was limited information compared to a cell phone. United States v. Pierre, 2021 U.S. … Continue reading
IA: Officer’s complying with 4A is not an element of the underlying crime for the jury
The officer’s complying with the Fourth Amendment in the stop and arrest is not an element of defendant’s crime [or any crime]. State v. Chivalan, 2021 Iowa App. LEXIS 381 (Apr. 28, 2021) [one can, in some cases, get an … Continue reading