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"If it was easy, everybody would be doing it. It isn't, and they don't."
—Me -
"Life is not a matter of holding good cards, but of playing a poor hand well."
–Josh Billings (pseudonym of Henry Wheeler Shaw), Josh Billings on Ice, and Other Things (1868) (erroneously attributed to Robert Louis Stevenson, among others) -
“I am still learning.”
—Domenico Giuntalodi (but misattributed to Michelangelo Buonarroti (common phrase throughout 1500's)). -
"Love work; hate mastery over others; and avoid intimacy with the government."
—Shemaya, in the Thalmud -
"It is a pleasant world we live in, sir, a very pleasant world. There are bad people in it, Mr. Richard, but if there were no bad people, there would be no good lawyers."
—Charles Dickens, “The Old Curiosity Shop ... With a Frontispiece. From a Painting by Geo. Cattermole, Etc.” 255 (1848) -
"A system of law that not only makes certain conduct criminal, but also lays down rules for the conduct of the authorities, often becomes complex in its application to individual cases, and will from time to time produce imperfect results, especially if one's attention is confined to the particular case at bar. Some criminals do go free because of the necessity of keeping government and its servants in their place. That is one of the costs of having and enforcing a Bill of Rights. This country is built on the assumption that the cost is worth paying, and that in the long run we are all both freer and safer if the Constitution is strictly enforced."
—Williams v. Nix, 700 F. 2d 1164, 1173 (8th Cir. 1983) (Richard Sheppard Arnold, J.), rev'd Nix v. Williams, 467 US. 431 (1984). -
"The criminal goes free, if he must, but it is the law that sets him free. Nothing can destroy a government more quickly than its failure to observe its own laws, or worse, its disregard of the charter of its own existence."
—Mapp v. Ohio, 367 U.S. 643, 659 (1961). -
"Any costs the exclusionary rule are costs imposed directly by the Fourth Amendment."
—Yale Kamisar, 86 Mich.L.Rev. 1, 36 n. 151 (1987). -
"There have been powerful hydraulic pressures throughout our history that bear heavily on the Court to water down constitutional guarantees and give the police the upper hand. That hydraulic pressure has probably never been greater than it is today."
— Terry v. Ohio, 392 U.S. 1, 39 (1968) (Douglas, J., dissenting). -
"The great end, for which men entered into society, was to secure their property."
—Entick v. Carrington, 19 How.St.Tr. 1029, 1066, 95 Eng. Rep. 807 (C.P. 1765) -
"It is a fair summary of history to say that the safeguards of liberty have frequently been forged in controversies involving not very nice people. And so, while we are concerned here with a shabby defrauder, we must deal with his case in the context of what are really the great themes expressed by the Fourth Amendment."
—United States v. Rabinowitz, 339 U.S. 56, 69 (1950) (Frankfurter, J., dissenting) -
"The course of true law pertaining to searches and seizures, as enunciated here, has not–to put it mildly–run smooth."
—Chapman v. United States, 365 U.S. 610, 618 (1961) (Frankfurter, J., concurring). -
"A search is a search, even if it happens to disclose nothing but the bottom of a turntable."
—Arizona v. Hicks, 480 U.S. 321, 325 (1987) -
"For the Fourth Amendment protects people, not places. What a person knowingly exposes to the public, even in his own home or office, is not a subject of Fourth Amendment protection. ... But what he seeks to preserve as private, even in an area accessible to the public, may be constitutionally protected."
—Katz v. United States, 389 U.S. 347, 351 (1967) -
“Experience should teach us to be most on guard to protect liberty when the Government’s purposes are beneficent. Men born to freedom are naturally alert to repel invasion of their liberty by evil-minded
rulers. The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well-meaning but without understanding.”
—United States v. Olmstead, 277 U.S. 438, 479 (1925) (Brandeis, J., dissenting)
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“Liberty—the freedom from unwarranted intrusion by government—is as easily lost through insistent nibbles by government officials who seek to do their jobs too well as by those whose purpose it is to oppress; the piranha can be as deadly as the shark.”
—United States v. $124,570, 873 F.2d 1240, 1246 (9th Cir. 1989) -
"You can't always get what you want / But if you try sometimes / You just might find / You get what you need."
—Mick Jagger & Keith Richards, Let it Bleed (album, 1969) -
"In Germany, they first came for the communists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a communist. Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew. Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist. Then they came for
the Catholics and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Catholic. Then they came
for me–and by that time there was nobody left to speak up."
—Martin Niemöller (1945) [he served seven years in a concentration camp] -
“Children grow up thinking the adult world is ordered, rational, fit for purpose. It’s crap. Becoming a man is realising that it’s all rotten. Realising how to celebrate that rottenness, that’s freedom.”
– John le Carré, The Night Manager (1993), line by Richard Roper -
"The point of the Fourth Amendment, which often is not grasped by zealous officers, is not that it denies law enforcement the support of the usual inferences which reasonable men draw from evidence. Its protection consists in requiring that those inferences be drawn by a neutral and detached magistrate instead of being judged by the officer engaged in the often competitive enterprise of ferreting out crime."
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The book was dedicated in the first (1982) and sixth (2025) editions to Justin William Hall (1975-2025). He was three when this project started in 1978.
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Monthly Archives: June 2016
M.D.Tenn.: Retired cop and current FOP member was still “neutral and detached” non-lawyer magistrate
The court declines to find a retired police officer acting as a non-lawyer judicial commissioner in issuing search warrants was not neutral and detached. His social media and socialization with police and remaining an FOP member aren’t enough, but maybe … Continue reading
Boston Globe: The FDA is stockpiling military weapons — and it’s not alone
Boston Globe: The FDA is stockpiling military weapons — and it’s not alone by Jeff Jacoby:
Hot Air: The Fourth Amendment wasn’t created to protect the guilty
Hot Air: The Fourth Amendment wasn’t created to protect the guilty by Jazz Shaw:
N.D.Ga.: Running away from the getaway car is an abandonment
Officers had probable cause to search defendant’s car for DNA and other evidence connecting it to a bank robbery that the car was connected to. Aside from that, everybody in the car fled when it was stopped, and that’s an … Continue reading
S.D.Fla.: Asking a question about a debit card during a plain view not unreasonable
The police were called to defendant’s apartment by a “scream filled 911 call” needing an ambulance. Once inside, in plain view, officers saw a debit card with a name that didn’t belong to the occupants. Asking about it did not … Continue reading
OH8: SW for “Apt. #1” with white door was valid where there was only one with a white door, albeit No. 3, and officers were directed by color of door
The description of the apartment with the white door on the corner of the building, “Apt. #1,” proved incorrect because Apt. #3 was the only one with a white door. The officers executing the warrant were directed to the one … Continue reading
D.P.R.: Criminal 4A violation proved by LEO being lookout on duty for robbery of recent ATF arrestee’s home
Defendant was a Puerto Rico police officer on a task force with the ATF. He worked the 4 pm to midnight shift, and he was involved as a police lookout to enable a condominium robbery to occur. He was convicted … Continue reading
D.Md.: Fact the SW sought drugs necessarily permits a detailed search of small places; doesn’t make it a general warrant
The fact the search warrant sought drugs necessarily permits a detailed search of small places, but that doesn’t make it a general warrant. The good faith exception applies, too. United States v. Minnick, 2016 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 80897 (D.Md. June … Continue reading
CA5: Handcuffing for refusal to show ID on school parking lot, without RS, didn’t violate “clearly established law”
Plaintiff drove to his wife’s school, with his daughter in the back seat, to pick his wife up from work. Some busybody citizen decided that the vehicle on school grounds was suspicious and called the police. The officer asked plaintiff … Continue reading
TX: No 4A claim for malicious prosecution
There is no Fourth Amendment claim, let alone a clearly established one, for malicious prosecution. If it exists in the constitution, it would be through due process. McIntyre v. El Paso Indep. Sch. Dist., 2016 Tex. LEXIS 568 (June 24, … Continue reading
NYLJ: Panel Upholds NYC Measure That Prohibits Biased Policing
NYLJ: Panel Upholds NYC Measure That Prohibits Biased Policing by Andrew Denney: State law does not pre-empt a New York City law prohibiting discriminatory policing that was enacted in 2013 amid concerns about the NYPD’s increased reliance on stop-and-frisk tactics, … Continue reading
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CNS News: Liberal AG’s Climate Change Probes Abuse Fourth Amendment to Upend First Amendment
CNS News: Liberal AG’s Climate Change Probes Abuse Fourth Amendment to Upend First Amendment by Mark Fitzgibbons. A subpoena for 40 years of records from Exxon about the environment is somehow equated with the Second Amendment (¶ 3, 1st sent.). … Continue reading
E.D.Va.: Another Playpen search of a home computer linked to the seized server approved
In another Playpen case, the Eastern District of Virginia approves hacking into a computer linked to a child pornography server. United States v. Matish, 2016 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 82279 (E.D.Va. June 23, 2016):
E.D.Mich.: During traffic stop, CA6 says passengers may be asked for ID
“Additionally, the Sixth Circuit has held that it is not a violation of the Fourth Amendment for a police officer to ask a passenger for identification, even if there is no probable cause for a reasonable suspicion of wrongdoing by … Continue reading
TN: 2½ minute questioning past the traffic ticket being issued wasn’t unreasonable
2½ minute questioning past the traffic ticket being issued wasn’t unreasonable. State v. Mansfield, 2016 Tenn. Crim. App. LEXIS 450 (June 22, 2016).* Defendant’s probation search was valid. “Thus, Agent Giselson’s knowledge of Dimes’ admitted unemployment, together with the large … Continue reading
NYTimes: Editorial: Policing the Police on Stop-and-Frisk
NYTimes: Editorial: Policing the Police on Stop-and-Frisk: Three years have passed since a Federal District Court ruled that New York City’s stop-and-frisk program violated constitutional prohibitions against unreasonable search and seizure and discriminated against minority citizens, who were disproportionately and … Continue reading
SCOTUS: Birchfield v. N.D.: refusing a blood test cannot result in charges
A breath test may be performed incident to an arrest without a warrant. A blood test requires a warrant or exigency. “Motorists may not be criminally punished for refusing to submit to a blood test based on legally implied consent … Continue reading
S.D.Miss.: Post-Jardines dog sniff of house and car leads to suppression of sniff of car, even though it’s not on curtilage
Officers did a dog sniff at defendant’s door after Jardines and then the car in the driveway. The car in the driveway is not on the curtilage, but the court suppresses because the sniff of the car was essentially an … Continue reading