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"Life is not a matter of holding good cards, but of playing a poor hand well."
–Josh Billings (pseudonym of Henry Wheeler Shaw), Josh Billings on Ice, and Other Things (1868) (erroneously attributed to Robert Louis Stevenson, among others) -
“I am still learning.”
—Domenico Giuntalodi (but misattributed to Michelangelo Buonarroti (common phrase throughout 1500's)). -
"Love work; hate mastery over others; and avoid intimacy with the government."
—Shemaya, in the Thalmud -
"It is a pleasant world we live in, sir, a very pleasant world. There are bad people in it, Mr. Richard, but if there were no bad people, there would be no good lawyers."
—Charles Dickens, “The Old Curiosity Shop ... With a Frontispiece. From a Painting by Geo. Cattermole, Etc.” 255 (1848) -
"A system of law that not only makes certain conduct criminal, but also lays down rules for the conduct of the authorities, often becomes complex in its application to individual cases, and will from time to time produce imperfect results, especially if one's attention is confined to the particular case at bar. Some criminals do go free because of the necessity of keeping government and its servants in their place. That is one of the costs of having and enforcing a Bill of Rights. This country is built on the assumption that the cost is worth paying, and that in the long run we are all both freer and safer if the Constitution is strictly enforced."
—Williams v. Nix, 700 F. 2d 1164, 1173 (8th Cir. 1983) (Richard Sheppard Arnold, J.), rev'd Nix v. Williams, 467 US. 431 (1984). -
"The criminal goes free, if he must, but it is the law that sets him free. Nothing can destroy a government more quickly than its failure to observe its own laws, or worse, its disregard of the charter of its own existence."
—Mapp v. Ohio, 367 U.S. 643, 659 (1961). -
"Any costs the exclusionary rule are costs imposed directly by the Fourth Amendment."
—Yale Kamisar, 86 Mich.L.Rev. 1, 36 n. 151 (1987). -
"There have been powerful hydraulic pressures throughout our history that bear heavily on the Court to water down constitutional guarantees and give the police the upper hand. That hydraulic pressure has probably never been greater than it is today."
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"The great end, for which men entered into society, was to secure their property."
—Entick v. Carrington, 19 How.St.Tr. 1029, 1066, 95 Eng. Rep. 807 (C.P. 1765) -
"It is a fair summary of history to say that the safeguards of liberty have frequently been forged in controversies involving not very nice people. And so, while we are concerned here with a shabby defrauder, we must deal with his case in the context of what are really the great themes expressed by the Fourth Amendment."
—United States v. Rabinowitz, 339 U.S. 56, 69 (1950) (Frankfurter, J., dissenting) -
"The course of true law pertaining to searches and seizures, as enunciated here, has not–to put it mildly–run smooth."
—Chapman v. United States, 365 U.S. 610, 618 (1961) (Frankfurter, J., concurring). -
"A search is a search, even if it happens to disclose nothing but the bottom of a turntable."
—Arizona v. Hicks, 480 U.S. 321, 325 (1987) -
"For the Fourth Amendment protects people, not places. What a person knowingly exposes to the public, even in his own home or office, is not a subject of Fourth Amendment protection. ... But what he seeks to preserve as private, even in an area accessible to the public, may be constitutionally protected."
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“Experience should teach us to be most on guard to protect liberty when the Government’s purposes are beneficent. Men born to freedom are naturally alert to repel invasion of their liberty by evil-minded
rulers. The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well-meaning but without understanding.”
—United States v. Olmstead, 277 U.S. 438, 479 (1925) (Brandeis, J., dissenting)
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“Liberty—the freedom from unwarranted intrusion by government—is as easily lost through insistent nibbles by government officials who seek to do their jobs too well as by those whose purpose it is to oppress; the piranha can be as deadly as the shark.”
—United States v. $124,570, 873 F.2d 1240, 1246 (9th Cir. 1989) -
"You can't always get what you want / But if you try sometimes / You just might find / You get what you need."
—Mick Jagger & Keith Richards, Let it Bleed (album, 1969) -
"In Germany, they first came for the communists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a communist. Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew. Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist. Then they came for
the Catholics and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Catholic. Then they came
for me–and by that time there was nobody left to speak up."
—Martin Niemöller (1945) [he served seven years in a concentration camp] -
“Children grow up thinking the adult world is ordered, rational, fit for purpose. It’s crap. Becoming a man is realising that it’s all rotten. Realising how to celebrate that rottenness, that’s freedom.”
– John le Carré, The Night Manager (1993), line by Richard Roper -
"The point of the Fourth Amendment, which often is not grasped by zealous officers, is not that it denies law enforcement the support of the usual inferences which reasonable men draw from evidence. Its protection consists in requiring that those inferences be drawn by a neutral and detached magistrate instead of being judged by the officer engaged in the often competitive enterprise of ferreting out crime."
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Category Archives: Reasonable suspicion
NY3: Warrantless arrest body cavity search was unreasonable
Defendant’s arrest body cavity search pulling out heroin was unreasonable. People v. Chase, 2024 NY Slip Op 01837, 2024 N.Y. App. Div. LEXIS 1877 (3d Dist. Apr. 4, 2024). [Sentencing was five years ago, and that should be an embarrassment … Continue reading
MI: Exclusionary rule doesn’t apply in civil cases; constitutionality of use of drone for zoning enforcement not decided
In the Michigan zoning drone use case, the court finds that the exclusionary rule would not be applied in civil cases, so the constitutionality of use of the drone didn’t need to be decided. Long Lake Twp. v. Maxon, 2024 … Continue reading
D.Nev.: Exclusionary rule does not apply to IRS violating its operations manual
The exclusionary rule does not apply to the IRS allegedly violating it’s own operations manual. United States v. Pacheco, 2024 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 80448 (D. Nev. May 2, 2024). “Neither party cites, nor have we have found, any published cases … Continue reading
MO: Initial bail setting under Gerstein not adversarial
An initial bail setting is nonadversarial and informal under the Fourth Amendment, so the court follows Gerstein and finds it not a critical stage. State v. Mills, 2024 Mo. LEXIS 140 (Apr. 30, 2024). The information from identified 911 callers … Continue reading
D.Alaska: Protective sweep after def’s arrest not justified, but there was exigency otherwise
The entry into the house was reasonable because of exigent circumstances because of ongoing drug operations there. Protective sweep is rejected because the defendant had already been arrested by the time the sweep occurred. United States v. Avitia-Enriquez, 2024 U.S. … Continue reading
CA: Avoiding the police in a high crime area isn’t RS
Defendant’s avoiding the police and not wanting to interact with them did not rise to reasonable suspicion, even in a high crime area. The officers before the trial court didn’t articulate enough to show there was reasonable suspicion here. People … Continue reading
CA7: Jail officials holding plaintiff under a valid court order aren’t liable for not releasing him sooner after a sentencing error
Jail officials holding plaintiff under a valid court order aren’t liable for not releasing him sooner after a sentencing error. Sabo v. Erickson, 2024 U.S. App. LEXIS 10503 (7th Cir. Apr. 30, 2024). “The record further reflects that when Officer … Continue reading
CADC: When searching a cell phone and officers find it belonged to someone else, a new SW isn’t required; SWs are directed at things, places, and people and owner doesn’t matter for PC
Officers seized a cell phone from Thorne, a suspected narcotics and firearms trafficker. In a search under a warrant, the officers found out the phone actually belonged to defendant. Warrants are directed at things, and that didn’t require them to … Continue reading
E.D.Mo.: PV warrant permitted entry to place where def reasonably suspected to reside
PV warrant permitted entry into suspected residence of violator. “However, the Eighth Circuit has made clear that, provided an administrative warrant is supported by reasonable cause, it carries the same implied limited authority to enter a dwelling to effectuate an … Continue reading
E.D.Wis.: SW for cell phones allowed seizure of others found on premises
In this cell phone search warrant case, the government could seize multiple cell phones found at defendant’s house, old phones and others not named when they were found. Old phones and other phones could also have evidence on them. United … Continue reading
DE: Officers approaching men on a stoop at night with a police dog saying “nobody move” was a seizure
Officers approaching men on a stoop at 10 pm with a police dog and saying “nobody move” was a seizure. Here it was with reasonable suspicion based on a CI’s information that was detailed, reliable, and significantly corroborated. State v. … Continue reading
OH1: A malnourished child isn’t exigency for an infant
“The facts of this case are more akin to the situation in Fisher. While a report of a malnourished infant is certainly cause for concern, no one testified that that the infant would not survive without immediate medical intervention. Rather, … Continue reading
D.Me.: Looking around house when allegedly “freezing” it was an illegal search
In an apparent attempt to “freeze” defendant’s residence after they took him away, they found marijuana while looking around. Up to that point, they had no inkling there was marijuana in the house. That search was unreasonable, and the motion … Continue reading
AR: RS shown for boating while intoxicated stop
There was reasonable suspicion for stopping defendant on his jet ski because he was operating it unsafely. Damron v. State, 2024 Ark. App. 274 (Apr. 24, 2024).* Defendant has the initial burden of showing he was subjected to a warrantless … Continue reading
NY: Failure to show independent source for officer’s observation of def required reversal
“[H]ere, the People presented practically no testimony regarding the undercover officer’s observations of the seller’s appearance to support a determination that he had a sufficient independent basis to identify defendant in court. This error requires reversal. Because the record of … Continue reading
VA: Outline of a gun in def’s pocket was RS
The outline of a gun in defendant’s pocket was reasonable suspicion. Alvin v. Commonwealth, 2024 Va. App. LEXIS 230 (Apr. 23, 2024). Even if a prior search was unreasonable, there was an independent source for the warranted search of defendant’s … Continue reading
W.D.N.Y.: Def had no standing in a place he wasn’t allowed to be on parole
As a parolee, defendant didn’t show standing in his girlfriend’s apartment when he wasn’t supposed to even be there in violation of parole. United States v. Melvin, 2024 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 73044 (W.D.N.Y. Apr. 22, 2024). The officer showed probable … Continue reading
CA11: Officer’s experience and opinions about CP collectors and retention of information is entitled to weight in PC determination
“Finally, the affidavit also contained sufficient evidence to conclude that ‘it was likely that child sexual abuse material (or evidence thereof) would be found at the [r]esidence, whether or not the material had been previously deleted.’ … The affidavit described … Continue reading
W.D.N.C.: Smell of alcohol alone doesn’t permit search for open container
The smell of alcohol alone wasn’t justification for a search of defendant’s car for an open container. United States v. Gibson, 2024 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 70389 (W.D.N.C. Apr. 17, 2024). Petitioner’s claim defense counsel was ineffective for not seeking the … Continue reading