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"Life is not a matter of holding good cards, but of playing a poor hand well."
–Josh Billings (pseudonym of Henry Wheeler Shaw), Josh Billings on Ice, and Other Things (1868) (erroneously attributed to Robert Louis Stevenson, among others) -
“I am still learning.”
—Domenico Giuntalodi (but misattributed to Michelangelo Buonarroti (common phrase throughout 1500's)). -
"Love work; hate mastery over others; and avoid intimacy with the government."
—Shemaya, in the Thalmud -
"It is a pleasant world we live in, sir, a very pleasant world. There are bad people in it, Mr. Richard, but if there were no bad people, there would be no good lawyers."
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"A system of law that not only makes certain conduct criminal, but also lays down rules for the conduct of the authorities, often becomes complex in its application to individual cases, and will from time to time produce imperfect results, especially if one's attention is confined to the particular case at bar. Some criminals do go free because of the necessity of keeping government and its servants in their place. That is one of the costs of having and enforcing a Bill of Rights. This country is built on the assumption that the cost is worth paying, and that in the long run we are all both freer and safer if the Constitution is strictly enforced."
—Williams v. Nix, 700 F. 2d 1164, 1173 (8th Cir. 1983) (Richard Sheppard Arnold, J.), rev'd Nix v. Williams, 467 US. 431 (1984). -
"The criminal goes free, if he must, but it is the law that sets him free. Nothing can destroy a government more quickly than its failure to observe its own laws, or worse, its disregard of the charter of its own existence."
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"Any costs the exclusionary rule are costs imposed directly by the Fourth Amendment."
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"There have been powerful hydraulic pressures throughout our history that bear heavily on the Court to water down constitutional guarantees and give the police the upper hand. That hydraulic pressure has probably never been greater than it is today."
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"The great end, for which men entered into society, was to secure their property."
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"It is a fair summary of history to say that the safeguards of liberty have frequently been forged in controversies involving not very nice people. And so, while we are concerned here with a shabby defrauder, we must deal with his case in the context of what are really the great themes expressed by the Fourth Amendment."
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"The course of true law pertaining to searches and seizures, as enunciated here, has not–to put it mildly–run smooth."
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"A search is a search, even if it happens to disclose nothing but the bottom of a turntable."
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"For the Fourth Amendment protects people, not places. What a person knowingly exposes to the public, even in his own home or office, is not a subject of Fourth Amendment protection. ... But what he seeks to preserve as private, even in an area accessible to the public, may be constitutionally protected."
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“Experience should teach us to be most on guard to protect liberty when the Government’s purposes are beneficent. Men born to freedom are naturally alert to repel invasion of their liberty by evil-minded rulers. The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well-meaning but without understanding.”
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intrusion by government—is as easily lost through insistent nibbles by
government officials who seek to do their jobs too well as by those whose purpose
it is to oppress; the piranha can be as deadly as the shark.”
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"You can't always get what you want / But if you try sometimes / You just might find / You get what you need."
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"In Germany, they first came for the communists, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a communist. Then they came for the Jews, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist. Then they came for the Catholics and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Catholic. Then they came for me–and by that time there was nobody left to speak up."
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“Children grow up thinking the adult world is ordered, rational, fit for purpose. It’s crap. Becoming a man is realising that it’s all rotten. Realising how to celebrate that rottenness, that’s freedom.”
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"The point of the Fourth Amendment, which often is not grasped by zealous officers, is not that it denies law enforcement the support of the usual inferences which reasonable men draw from evidence. Its protection consists in requiring that those inferences be drawn by a neutral and detached magistrate instead of being judged by the officer engaged in the often competitive enterprise of ferreting out crime."
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The book was dedicated in the first (1982) and sixth (2025) editions to Justin William Hall (1975-2025). He was three when this project started in 1978.
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Category Archives: Rule 41(g) / Return of property
E.D.Cal.: Motion for return of things denied until 2255 resolved
Defendant seeks return of things of potential evidentiary value. The government opposes on the ground that a 2255 has not yet been filed, and the things might still have value. That’s reasonable for the court. United States v. Saldivar, 2019 … Continue reading
IL: Once def was acquitted, seized computer data should have been returned, not searched again without a warrant
Defendant was a Peoria police officer being accused of sexual assault, and the Illinois State Police obtained a search warrant for his computer and other devices. The hard drives were copied with EnCase software. Defendant was tried on the sexual … Continue reading
CA5: Use of deadly force against an armed, dangerous, and unpredicable man was subject to QI
Officers were entitled to qualified immunity because plaintiff could not establish that they used excessive force in violation of the Fourth Amendment. The evidence indicated that the use of force was justified under the circumstances. Because the officers thought they … Continue reading
D.Nev.: Govt’s stated intent to forfeit requires motion for return of property be denied
Motion for return of property seized five weeks ago is denied. The government will image electronics and return them. That which is subject to forfeiture has to await it. United States v. Wells, 2019 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 168017 (D. Nev. … Continue reading
MA: Trial court erred in ordering cell phone purged of potential evidence as a condition of returning it after it was suppressed
Defendant succeeded in suppressing his cell phone, and the trial court erred in ordering defendant’s phone erased of the evidence suppressed before returning it. It was his property. Commonwealth v. Salmons, 2019 Mass. App. LEXIS 119 (Sept. 11, 2019):
OH8: Cell phone not ordered returned because of its potential use in evidence
Defendant’s cell phone was still potential evidence in his retrial, so it won’t be ordered returned to him. State v. Metz, 2019-Ohio-3370, 2019 Ohio App. LEXIS 3440 (8th Dist. Aug. 22, 2019). Officers approached defendant’s house for a welfare check, … Continue reading
Cal.: Probation search condition of electronic devices not related to underlying offense and quashed
The juvenile here was adjudicated guilty of burglary. A probation search condition of his electronic devices wasn’t reasonably related to the offense and it is ordered removed. In re Ricardo P., 2019 Cal. LEXIS 5949 (Aug. 16, 2019). The seizure … Continue reading
M.D.Pa.: Lack of standing cuts off a Franks challenge
Defendant lacked standing in the place searched, so he’s denied a Franks hearing to challenge that omission from the affidavit for search warrant. “The only connection between Defendant and 10 H Hall Manor reflected in the Affidavit of Probable Cause … Continue reading
S.D.Fla.: Search incident and community caretaking exceptions can’t support govt’s search of def’s messenger bag days later
The government’s search incident theory to sustain a search of defendant’s messenger bag days after his arrest is rejected. “The fundamental purpose of the search incident to arrest exception is to ensure safety and safeguard evidence. Neither of these concerns … Continue reading
S.D.Miss.: Govt plans to file forfeiture so motion for return of cash denied
Claimant business’s motion for return of $895k from its bank account under Rule 41(g) is denied for lack of irreparable harm, based also on the government’s representation it’s going to attempt forfeiture. “Turning to the fourth factor, the Court finds … Continue reading
PA: Motions for return of property seized by SW are addressed to judge supervising the GJ that sought them
Motions for return of property seized by search warrant issued for a Statewide Investigating Grand Jury are to be addressed to the judge supervising the grand jury. In re Return of Seized Property, 2019 Pa. LEXIS 3845 (July 17, 2019). … Continue reading
C.D.Ill.: Evidence used at trial not subject to return under Rule 41(g)
That which was used as evidence at trial is not yet subject to return under Rule 41(g). The government responded by affidavit. United States v. Hathaway, 2019 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 104035 (C.D. Ill. June 21, 2019). “It was error as … Continue reading
CA11: “Rule 41(g) is not an appropriate vehicle for the return of property seized by civil forfeiture.”
“Rule 41(g) is not an appropriate vehicle for the return of property seized by civil forfeiture.” United States v. Bynum, 2019 U.S. App. LEXIS 17510 (11th Cir. June 12, 2019). Defendant’s claim there was a reasonable expectation of privacy as … Continue reading
N.D.Ga.: IP information is not governed by Carpenter
IP information is not governed by Carpenter. “Obtaining information from Kik, Sprint, and Comcast did not allow law enforcement to track Defendant Jenkins’s physical location over an extended period. At most, it allowed them a lead in identifying him — … Continue reading
D.Neb.: SW for cell phone defeats motion for return of phone for time being
Defendant’s cell phone was seized when he was arrested. Five days later, the government sought a search warrant for the phone. Defendant isn’t yet entitled to return of the phone. United States v. Gonzalez, 2019 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 61279 (D. … Continue reading
OH2: Denial of motion for return of property affirmed on appeal for lack of a hearing transcript
Defendant’s motion for return of property was properly denied, but it’s because he failed to bring up a record of the hearing in the trial court. State v. White, 2019-Ohio-1264, 2019 Ohio App. LEXIS 1342 (2d Cir. Apr. 5, 2019).* … Continue reading
IN: Petition for return of firearms seized granted; state’s evidence too stale to carry burden
In a petition for return of firearms seized from an alleged dangerous person, the state didn’t put on proof of anything recent, so the petition should have been granted. Redington v. State, 2019 Ind. App. LEXIS 146 (Apr. 5, 2019). … Continue reading
D.Ariz.: No damages collectable in a motion for return of property
One can’t get damages in a Rule 41(g) motion for return of property. Hall v. United States, 2019 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 56524 (D. Ariz. Apr. 2, 2019). There was probable cause for search of the premises, and defendant lacks standing … Continue reading
MA: Probation GPS monitoring can be accessed after the fact to prove def’s location in a new crime
Defendant was on probation and had GPS monitoring as a condition. It was reasonable for the state to access the historical GPS data later when defendant was suspected of a crime. Commonwealth v. Johnson, 481 Mass. 710 (Mar. 26, 2019). … Continue reading