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by John Wesley Hall
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"If it was easy, everybody would be doing it. It isn't, and they don't."
—Me -
"Life is not a matter of holding good cards, but of playing a poor hand well."
–Josh Billings (pseudonym of Henry Wheeler Shaw), Josh Billings on Ice, and Other Things (1868) (erroneously attributed to Robert Louis Stevenson, among others) -
“I am still learning.”
—Domenico Giuntalodi (but misattributed to Michelangelo Buonarroti (common phrase throughout 1500's)). -
"Love work; hate mastery over others; and avoid intimacy with the government."
—Shemaya, in the Thalmud -
"It is a pleasant world we live in, sir, a very pleasant world. There are bad people in it, Mr. Richard, but if there were no bad people, there would be no good lawyers."
—Charles Dickens, “The Old Curiosity Shop ... With a Frontispiece. From a Painting by Geo. Cattermole, Etc.” 255 (1848) -
"A system of law that not only makes certain conduct criminal, but also lays down rules for the conduct of the authorities, often becomes complex in its application to individual cases, and will from time to time produce imperfect results, especially if one's attention is confined to the particular case at bar. Some criminals do go free because of the necessity of keeping government and its servants in their place. That is one of the costs of having and enforcing a Bill of Rights. This country is built on the assumption that the cost is worth paying, and that in the long run we are all both freer and safer if the Constitution is strictly enforced."
—Williams v. Nix, 700 F. 2d 1164, 1173 (8th Cir. 1983) (Richard Sheppard Arnold, J.), rev'd Nix v. Williams, 467 US. 431 (1984). -
"The criminal goes free, if he must, but it is the law that sets him free. Nothing can destroy a government more quickly than its failure to observe its own laws, or worse, its disregard of the charter of its own existence."
—Mapp v. Ohio, 367 U.S. 643, 659 (1961). -
"Any costs the exclusionary rule are costs imposed directly by the Fourth Amendment."
—Yale Kamisar, 86 Mich.L.Rev. 1, 36 n. 151 (1987). -
"There have been powerful hydraulic pressures throughout our history that bear heavily on the Court to water down constitutional guarantees and give the police the upper hand. That hydraulic pressure has probably never been greater than it is today."
— Terry v. Ohio, 392 U.S. 1, 39 (1968) (Douglas, J., dissenting). -
"The great end, for which men entered into society, was to secure their property."
—Entick v. Carrington, 19 How.St.Tr. 1029, 1066, 95 Eng. Rep. 807 (C.P. 1765) -
"It is a fair summary of history to say that the safeguards of liberty have frequently been forged in controversies involving not very nice people. And so, while we are concerned here with a shabby defrauder, we must deal with his case in the context of what are really the great themes expressed by the Fourth Amendment."
—United States v. Rabinowitz, 339 U.S. 56, 69 (1950) (Frankfurter, J., dissenting) -
"The course of true law pertaining to searches and seizures, as enunciated here, has not–to put it mildly–run smooth."
—Chapman v. United States, 365 U.S. 610, 618 (1961) (Frankfurter, J., concurring). -
"A search is a search, even if it happens to disclose nothing but the bottom of a turntable."
—Arizona v. Hicks, 480 U.S. 321, 325 (1987) -
"For the Fourth Amendment protects people, not places. What a person knowingly exposes to the public, even in his own home or office, is not a subject of Fourth Amendment protection. ... But what he seeks to preserve as private, even in an area accessible to the public, may be constitutionally protected."
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“Experience should teach us to be most on guard to protect liberty when the Government’s purposes are beneficent. Men born to freedom are naturally alert to repel invasion of their liberty by evil-minded
rulers. The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well-meaning but without understanding.”
—United States v. Olmstead, 277 U.S. 438, 479 (1925) (Brandeis, J., dissenting)
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“Liberty—the freedom from unwarranted intrusion by government—is as easily lost through insistent nibbles by government officials who seek to do their jobs too well as by those whose purpose it is to oppress; the piranha can be as deadly as the shark.”
—United States v. $124,570, 873 F.2d 1240, 1246 (9th Cir. 1989) -
"You can't always get what you want / But if you try sometimes / You just might find / You get what you need."
—Mick Jagger & Keith Richards, Let it Bleed (album, 1969) -
"In Germany, they first came for the communists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a communist. Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew. Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist. Then they came for
the Catholics and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Catholic. Then they came
for me–and by that time there was nobody left to speak up."
—Martin Niemöller (1945) [he served seven years in a concentration camp] -
“Children grow up thinking the adult world is ordered, rational, fit for purpose. It’s crap. Becoming a man is realising that it’s all rotten. Realising how to celebrate that rottenness, that’s freedom.”
– John le Carré, The Night Manager (1993), line by Richard Roper -
"The point of the Fourth Amendment, which often is not grasped by zealous officers, is not that it denies law enforcement the support of the usual inferences which reasonable men draw from evidence. Its protection consists in requiring that those inferences be drawn by a neutral and detached magistrate instead of being judged by the officer engaged in the often competitive enterprise of ferreting out crime."
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The book was dedicated in the first (1982) and sixth (2025) editions to Justin William Hall (1975-2025). He was three when this project started in 1978.
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Category Archives: Reasonableness
IN: Parent can consent to search of minor child’s bedroom
“As a matter of first impression in Indiana, we hold that it is reasonable under the Fourth Amendment for an officer to rely on the voluntary consent of a minor’s parent to search the minor’s bedroom inside the parent’s home.” … Continue reading
CA7: Witness ID’s enough for arrest thus barring § 1983 case
Four witnesses ID’d defendant for a crime. The fact that the charges were later dropped didn’t form a basis for a § 1983 case. There was probable cause and no reasonable jury would conclude otherwise and that’s qualified immunity. Hart … Continue reading
S.D.N.Y.: Whether an apt building stairwell is a “public place” is unsettled law in NYS, so def’s stop not unreasonable under Heien
Whether an open container in an apartment building stairwell was done in a “public place” is not clear and is unsettled under New York law, so the officer’s detention of defendant on this ground was not objectively unreasonable under Heien … Continue reading
N.D.Ga.: To get a hearing on a motion to suppress, defendant has to allege facts sufficient to provide relief
To get a hearing on a motion to suppress, defendant has to allege facts sufficient to provide relief, if they can be proved. United States v. Ochoa, 2015 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 105925 (N.D.Ga. July 8, 2015). Officers had reasonable suspicion … Continue reading
NC Policy Blog: The Heien Effect
NC Policy Blog: The Heien Effect by Sharon McCloskey: In her dissenting opinion, state Supreme Court Justice Robin Hudson projected what might follow from a ruling condoning an officer’s subjective interpretation of the law: … Hudson was right.
CA2: Cooperator exceeded officer’s direction in conducting a private search, but it’s still reasonable
A cooperator ended up taking evidence from defendant’s house without police direction. It was a private search not governed by the Fourth Amendment. “‘A private person cannot act unilaterally as an agent or instrument of the state; there must be … Continue reading
IA: Mistake of law doesn’t support stop (and doesn’t discuss Heien)
Defendant was sitting in a car on a parking lot with an open container, and an officer arrested for that and searched. The court of appeals reversed. The open container law clearly only applies to streets and highways and not … Continue reading
Wisconsin adopts Heien on reasonable mistakes of law
Wisconsin adopts Heien on reasonable mistakes of law, overruling all past cases. Reasonable suspicion is all that’s needed for a traffic stop, not probable cause. State v. Houghton, 2015 WI 79, 2015 Wisc. LEXIS 484 (July 14, 2015). Fleeing into … Continue reading
D.S.D.: Def’s REP in a mailed letter ended when it was opened on receipt
Defendant’s expectation of privacy in letter he mailed ended when it was received and opened. The USMJ did not abuse his discretion in not reopening the suppression hearing to ask further questions about photographs. The suppression hearing was three days … Continue reading
CA5: Decision to use SRT to execute search warrant was not shown to be unreasonable on the totality
“Based on the totality of the circumstances, Officer Vinson’s decision to deploy the SRT to execute the search warrant for Ms. Bullock’s residence did not constitute force excessive to the need, nor was it objectively unreasonable.” Bailey v. Lawson, 2015 … Continue reading
D.Kan.: Heien relieves a federal court of having to make fine distinctions about whether state traffic law was validated
Heien relieves a federal court of having to make fine distinctions about whether state traffic law was validated: The question is whether the officer’s view was reasonable. [Again, close enough for government work.] United States v. Morales, 2015 U.S. Dist. … Continue reading
MA: Order for fraternal twin to give up DNA to eliminate him here was unreasonable for an inadequate showing; contempt reversed
“This court concluded that a Superior Court judge, in entering a judgment of contempt in a criminal case due to the refusal, by a third party who was not a suspect, to comply with an order compelling him to provide … Continue reading
CA4 notes conflict in circuits in applying “egregious Fourth Amendment violation” for immigration removal cases
The Fourth Circuit wrestles with the appropriate standard for an “egregious Fourth Amendment violation” for immigration removal cases, and confirms and analyzes a conflict in the circuits and how to interpret SCOTUS’s Lopez-Mendoza. Here, the Fourth Amendment violations were not … Continue reading
IA: Officer’s even reasonable mistake of fact makes stop unreasonable
A mistake of fact about the existence of a stop sign (down because of construction) denies reasonable suspicion for the stop. This is not a mistake of law under Heien, a question reserved for another day. State v. Schueman, 2015 … Continue reading
TX1: A police officer contemplating a blood draw by search warrant is not obligated to inquire into the medical history of the suspect to predetermine reasonableness
A police officer contemplating a blood draw by search warrant is not obligated to inquire into the medical history of the suspect to predetermine reasonableness. Dromgoole v. State, 2015 Tex. App. LEXIS 5662 (Tex. App. – Houston (1st Dist.) June … Continue reading
OH9: Where the car in which defendant was a passenger was going to be inventoried, def’s detention for officer safety was reasonable
The continued detention of the defendant passenger in a car, incidental to the stop of the driver, pending the inventory of the car was reasonable. The trial court resolved a fact dispute and concluded that defendant consented to a search … Continue reading
D.Neb.: Defendant was clearly not free to leave and his 30 minute questioning was unreasonable and not even de minimus as in Rodriguez
The stop here was overlong under Rodriguez, but, of course, happened before. Here, however, the defendant was told he was free to leave, but the court finds that “There is no doubt that the defendant did not feel he was … Continue reading