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"Life is not a matter of holding good cards, but of playing a poor hand well."
–Josh Billings (pseudonym of Henry Wheeler Shaw), Josh Billings on Ice, and Other Things (1868) (erroneously attributed to Robert Louis Stevenson, among others) -
“I am still learning.”
—Domenico Giuntalodi (but misattributed to Michelangelo Buonarroti (common phrase throughout 1500's)). -
"Love work; hate mastery over others; and avoid intimacy with the government."
—Shemaya, in the Thalmud -
"It is a pleasant world we live in, sir, a very pleasant world. There are bad people in it, Mr. Richard, but if there were no bad people, there would be no good lawyers."
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"A system of law that not only makes certain conduct criminal, but also lays down rules for the conduct of the authorities, often becomes complex in its application to individual cases, and will from time to time produce imperfect results, especially if one's attention is confined to the particular case at bar. Some criminals do go free because of the necessity of keeping government and its servants in their place. That is one of the costs of having and enforcing a Bill of Rights. This country is built on the assumption that the cost is worth paying, and that in the long run we are all both freer and safer if the Constitution is strictly enforced."
—Williams v. Nix, 700 F. 2d 1164, 1173 (8th Cir. 1983) (Richard Sheppard Arnold, J.), rev'd Nix v. Williams, 467 US. 431 (1984). -
"The criminal goes free, if he must, but it is the law that sets him free. Nothing can destroy a government more quickly than its failure to observe its own laws, or worse, its disregard of the charter of its own existence."
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"Any costs the exclusionary rule are costs imposed directly by the Fourth Amendment."
—Yale Kamisar, 86 Mich.L.Rev. 1, 36 n. 151 (1987). -
"There have been powerful hydraulic pressures throughout our history that bear heavily on the Court to water down constitutional guarantees and give the police the upper hand. That hydraulic pressure has probably never been greater than it is today."
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"The great end, for which men entered into society, was to secure their property."
—Entick v. Carrington, 19 How.St.Tr. 1029, 1066, 95 Eng. Rep. 807 (C.P. 1765) -
"It is a fair summary of history to say that the safeguards of liberty have frequently been forged in controversies involving not very nice people. And so, while we are concerned here with a shabby defrauder, we must deal with his case in the context of what are really the great themes expressed by the Fourth Amendment."
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"The course of true law pertaining to searches and seizures, as enunciated here, has not–to put it mildly–run smooth."
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"A search is a search, even if it happens to disclose nothing but the bottom of a turntable."
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"For the Fourth Amendment protects people, not places. What a person knowingly exposes to the public, even in his own home or office, is not a subject of Fourth Amendment protection. ... But what he seeks to preserve as private, even in an area accessible to the public, may be constitutionally protected."
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“Experience should teach us to be most on guard to protect liberty when the Government’s purposes are beneficent. Men born to freedom are naturally alert to repel invasion of their liberty by evil-minded
rulers. The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well-meaning but without understanding.”
—United States v. Olmstead, 277 U.S. 438, 479 (1925) (Brandeis, J., dissenting)
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“Liberty—the freedom from unwarranted intrusion by government—is as easily lost through insistent nibbles by government officials who seek to do their jobs too well as by those whose purpose it is to oppress; the piranha can be as deadly as the shark.”
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"You can't always get what you want / But if you try sometimes / You just might find / You get what you need."
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"In Germany, they first came for the communists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a communist. Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew. Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist. Then they came for
the Catholics and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Catholic. Then they came
for me–and by that time there was nobody left to speak up."
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“Children grow up thinking the adult world is ordered, rational, fit for purpose. It’s crap. Becoming a man is realising that it’s all rotten. Realising how to celebrate that rottenness, that’s freedom.”
– John le Carré, The Night Manager (1993), line by Richard Roper -
"The point of the Fourth Amendment, which often is not grasped by zealous officers, is not that it denies law enforcement the support of the usual inferences which reasonable men draw from evidence. Its protection consists in requiring that those inferences be drawn by a neutral and detached magistrate instead of being judged by the officer engaged in the often competitive enterprise of ferreting out crime."
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The book was dedicated in the first (1982) and sixth (2025) editions to Justin William Hall (1975-2025). He was three when this project started in 1978.
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Category Archives: Reasonable suspicion
IL: Simple question during SW execution about whether def had been subjected to a SW before wasn’t interrogation where he volunteered where a gun was
A question to defendant during execution of a search warrant whether he’d been the target of a search warrant before led to an incriminating and unsolicited response about a gun that would not be suppressed. He wasn’t being interrogated. Therefore, … Continue reading
OH11: Police chase after bank robbery led to def’s house and RS for his stop
Officers had reasonable suspicion for stopping defendant for suspicion of being involved in a bank robbery. Police gave chase but lost him, but only after catching his license plate number. They went to his house and waited for him to … Continue reading
NM & N.D.Iowa: Arrest or stop after NCIC check was reasonable
Defendant’s arrest after an NCIC check showed warrants for him was reasonable. State v. Widmer, 2020 N.M. App. LEXIS 41 (Sept. 15, 2020). To the same effect is United States v. Bullock, 020 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 170229 (N.D. Iowa Aug. … Continue reading
M.D.Fla.: Scrivener’s error as to property to be seized was cured in context
A scrivener’s error as to alleged vagueness in the property to be searched and seized was cured in context of the documents. United States v. Carter, 2020 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 168543 (M.D. Fla. Sept. 15, 2020). Defendant’s blocking the street … Continue reading
CA2: Being in a high-crime area doesn’t add to RS; stop here lacked RS
Reasonable suspicion was lacking. Being in a high-crime area doesn’t add much of anything. United States v. Weaver, 2020 U.S. App. LEXIS 29187 (2d Cir. Sept. 15, 2020)*:
N.D.N.Y.: Removal of shoes not a strip search
School administrator’s direction to a student to remove shoes was not a strip search. I.S. v. Binghamton City Sch. Dist., 2020 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 167370 (N.D. N.Y. Sept. 14, 2020). 2254 petitioner litigated and lost his illegal arrest claim in … Continue reading
AL: IAC claim not stated for not challenging failure to deliver copy of SW to def
Defendant didn’t adequately plead an ineffective assistance of counsel claim for defense counsel not arguing that defendant wasn’t given a copy of the search warrant at the time of the search so he could challenge the search. Smith v. State, … Continue reading
CA3: Postal inspector had RS to detain package for dog sniff
“The [postal] inspector had reasonable suspicion. [¶] The inspector acted reasonably. Five signs aroused his suspicion: First, the package was from Puerto Rico, a common source of illegal cocaine shipments. Second, the package was sent by Priority Mail, a common … Continue reading
CA9: Neighbor’s 911 call about burglary justified police entry protective sweep
A 911 burglary call by defendant’s neighbor led to police coming to the house, and the police entered to look for suspects. This was a reasonable entry based on exigency. United States v. Booth, 2020 U.S. App. LEXIS 28377 (9th … Continue reading
CA5: RS required for border search of digital devices
Based on some other circuits, digital forensic searches require at least reasonable suspicion and no warrant. Defendant’s digital search complied with the rules of other circuits, so it was at least in good faith. United States v. Aguilar, 2020 U.S. … Continue reading
NY: Stop because license plate reader erroneously said car should have still been in impound lot was unreasonable
The stop here was based a license plate search. The Buffalo impound lot had not updated its records that defendant got his car out of impound more than a week earlier. There was no traffic violation. The stop was unreasonable … Continue reading
IN: CI’s statement he bought from def ten times was a statement against penal interest
The CI was the target of a search, and he snitched off defendant as his source for about ten sales, the most recent the day before. That was a statement against penal interest. State v. Stone, 2020 Ind. App. LEXIS … Continue reading
W.D.Wash.: Govt doesn’t need SW to search its own records
The government doesn’t need a search warrant to search its own records. No case says anything like that, and there is no reasonable expectation of privacy in the private sense. United States v. Fanyo-Patchou, 2020 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 155998 (W.D. … Continue reading
E.D.Pa.: Guest who intended to spend the night had standing
Defendant had standing to contest a search of premises he was visiting and anticipated spending the night. He loses on the merits by his consent. United States v. Mack, 2020 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 152664 (E.D. Pa. Aug. 24, 2020). Defendant’s … Continue reading
CA11: Mere trespasser in driveway had no REP there
Defendant was parked in the driveway of what was supposed to be at the time an unoccupied house, and a neighbor called the police. Defendant told them he was an invited visitor, but it was found he lacked a reasonable … Continue reading
NH: Protective sweep of motel room search justified by presence of others
A protective sweep of defendant’s motel room on his arrest was justified by the fact he was suspected of selling crack out of it and there were three woman also there, one of whom turned her back on the officers … Continue reading
CA5: Text messages on state employee’s state-issued cell phone were reasonably searched under Quon
The search of text messages on a state administrative enforcement officer’s state issued cell phone was reasonable under City of Ontario v. Quon. Tingle v. Hebert, 2020 U.S. App. LEXIS 26057 (5th Cir. Aug. 17, 2020). Defendant’s renting a car … Continue reading
CA11: Questions unrelated to the stop unreasonably extended it, but it complied with law at time, so GFE applies
The officer’s questions here about what was in the car were unnecessary and unreasonably added 25 seconds to the stop. They were, however, before Rodriguez was decided [but what about Caballes?] and complied with the law in effect at the … Continue reading
NY1: Failure to get a ruling on search issue in trial court is waiver
Failure to get a ruling on a search claim in the trial court is waiver of the issue for appeal. People v. Collins, 2020 NY Slip Op 04517, 2020 N.Y. App. Div. LEXIS 4610 (1st Dept. Aug. 13, 2020). Drug … Continue reading