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by John Wesley Hall
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"If it was easy, everybody would be doing it. It isn't, and they don't."
—Me -
"Life is not a matter of holding good cards, but of playing a poor hand well."
–Josh Billings (pseudonym of Henry Wheeler Shaw), Josh Billings on Ice, and Other Things (1868) (erroneously attributed to Robert Louis Stevenson, among others) -
“I am still learning.”
—Domenico Giuntalodi (but misattributed to Michelangelo Buonarroti (common phrase throughout 1500's)). -
"Love work; hate mastery over others; and avoid intimacy with the government."
—Shemaya, in the Thalmud -
"It is a pleasant world we live in, sir, a very pleasant world. There are bad people in it, Mr. Richard, but if there were no bad people, there would be no good lawyers."
—Charles Dickens, “The Old Curiosity Shop ... With a Frontispiece. From a Painting by Geo. Cattermole, Etc.” 255 (1848) -
"A system of law that not only makes certain conduct criminal, but also lays down rules for the conduct of the authorities, often becomes complex in its application to individual cases, and will from time to time produce imperfect results, especially if one's attention is confined to the particular case at bar. Some criminals do go free because of the necessity of keeping government and its servants in their place. That is one of the costs of having and enforcing a Bill of Rights. This country is built on the assumption that the cost is worth paying, and that in the long run we are all both freer and safer if the Constitution is strictly enforced."
—Williams v. Nix, 700 F. 2d 1164, 1173 (8th Cir. 1983) (Richard Sheppard Arnold, J.), rev'd Nix v. Williams, 467 US. 431 (1984). -
"The criminal goes free, if he must, but it is the law that sets him free. Nothing can destroy a government more quickly than its failure to observe its own laws, or worse, its disregard of the charter of its own existence."
—Mapp v. Ohio, 367 U.S. 643, 659 (1961). -
"Any costs the exclusionary rule are costs imposed directly by the Fourth Amendment."
—Yale Kamisar, 86 Mich.L.Rev. 1, 36 n. 151 (1987). -
"There have been powerful hydraulic pressures throughout our history that bear heavily on the Court to water down constitutional guarantees and give the police the upper hand. That hydraulic pressure has probably never been greater than it is today."
— Terry v. Ohio, 392 U.S. 1, 39 (1968) (Douglas, J., dissenting). -
"The great end, for which men entered into society, was to secure their property."
—Entick v. Carrington, 19 How.St.Tr. 1029, 1066, 95 Eng. Rep. 807 (C.P. 1765) -
"It is a fair summary of history to say that the safeguards of liberty have frequently been forged in controversies involving not very nice people. And so, while we are concerned here with a shabby defrauder, we must deal with his case in the context of what are really the great themes expressed by the Fourth Amendment."
—United States v. Rabinowitz, 339 U.S. 56, 69 (1950) (Frankfurter, J., dissenting) -
"The course of true law pertaining to searches and seizures, as enunciated here, has not–to put it mildly–run smooth."
—Chapman v. United States, 365 U.S. 610, 618 (1961) (Frankfurter, J., concurring). -
"A search is a search, even if it happens to disclose nothing but the bottom of a turntable."
—Arizona v. Hicks, 480 U.S. 321, 325 (1987) -
"For the Fourth Amendment protects people, not places. What a person knowingly exposes to the public, even in his own home or office, is not a subject of Fourth Amendment protection. ... But what he seeks to preserve as private, even in an area accessible to the public, may be constitutionally protected."
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“Experience should teach us to be most on guard to protect liberty when the Government’s purposes are beneficent. Men born to freedom are naturally alert to repel invasion of their liberty by evil-minded
rulers. The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well-meaning but without understanding.”
—United States v. Olmstead, 277 U.S. 438, 479 (1925) (Brandeis, J., dissenting)
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“Liberty—the freedom from unwarranted intrusion by government—is as easily lost through insistent nibbles by government officials who seek to do their jobs too well as by those whose purpose it is to oppress; the piranha can be as deadly as the shark.”
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"You can't always get what you want / But if you try sometimes / You just might find / You get what you need."
—Mick Jagger & Keith Richards, Let it Bleed (album, 1969) -
"In Germany, they first came for the communists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a communist. Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew. Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist. Then they came for
the Catholics and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Catholic. Then they came
for me–and by that time there was nobody left to speak up."
—Martin Niemöller (1945) [he served seven years in a concentration camp] -
“Children grow up thinking the adult world is ordered, rational, fit for purpose. It’s crap. Becoming a man is realising that it’s all rotten. Realising how to celebrate that rottenness, that’s freedom.”
– John le Carré, The Night Manager (1993), line by Richard Roper -
"The point of the Fourth Amendment, which often is not grasped by zealous officers, is not that it denies law enforcement the support of the usual inferences which reasonable men draw from evidence. Its protection consists in requiring that those inferences be drawn by a neutral and detached magistrate instead of being judged by the officer engaged in the often competitive enterprise of ferreting out crime."
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Category Archives: Staleness
ND: 14 hour old information for a probation search was not stale
14 hour old information for a probation search was not stale. State v. Stenhoff, 2019 ND 106 (Apr. 11, 2019). Defendant didn’t preserve his search issues for appeal under state law. “In attempting to reserve the question of whether Defendant … Continue reading
MA: Six month old info of possession of a gun requires something else to show it was ongoing to not be stale
A single firearm seen in the house six months before the search warrant was sought, without some evidence possession was ongoing, wasn’t enough to overcome staleness. Commonwealth v. Hart, 2019 Mass. App. LEXIS 43 (Apr. 11, 2019):
CA2: Unlicensed and unauthorized and driver of rental car had no standing under Byrd
Unlicensed and unauthorized driver of rental car had no standing under Byrd. United States v. Lyle, 2019 U.S. App. LEXIS 9457 (2d Cir. Apr. 1, 2019). Defendant signed a search waiver as a condition of community control, and that was … Continue reading
NY4: State didn’t show that CI actually existed; reversed
The state didn’t make a sufficient showing required by NY law that the CI actually existed. The motion to suppress should have been granted. People v. Givans, 2019 NY Slip Op 02220, 2019 N.Y. App. Div. LEXIS 2237 (4th Dept. … Continue reading
D.V.I.: Nearly two month old information for a bank robbery SW wasn’t stale
Where there were two bank robberies allegedly attributable to defendant (September 2 and October 23, 2014). The search warrant issued after the latter could seek information and evidence from the former because it was apparently an ongoing operation. Even if … Continue reading
MO: “All data” SW for cell phone was particular where crimes under investigation also listed in SW
No Missouri case deals with the question of particularity in a cell phone search. One group finds “all data” warrants not particular. Others hold such warrants valid if the crime under investigation is also mentioned. Here it was mentioned to … Continue reading
TN: CI’s drug information about def’s house “within previous 72 hours” not stale
A CI who’d been in defendant’s house reported that defendant had a quantity of marijuana for sale, and it was reported by the officer in the affidavit to have been within the previous 72 hours. Probable cause was shown for … Continue reading
CA11: Occasional visitor at house had no standing
“Here, Rodriguez’s limited relationship to Weeks’s house does not grant him a reasonable expectation of privacy in it. Rodriguez testified at the suppression hearing that he went to Weeks’s house after being invited, not on his own accord. He also … Continue reading
N.D.Okla.: “firearms are tangible objects of habitual retention” and that overcomes def’s staleness argument
“Officer Campbell averred that, based on her experience and training, she knows that firearms are tangible objects of habitual retention, and once a person acquires a firearm, he or she usually keeps said weapon for a long period of time.” … Continue reading
S.D.Ill.: Merely living in a house and being alleged to be a criminal doesn’t create nexus; more is required, and the govt had it here
It is settled in this circuit that merely because a person lives in a house doesn’t create a nexus to the house for crime; more is required. Here, the government gets over that hurdle. Defendant was overheard talking about having … Continue reading
CA9: SW for stolen property in def’s house wasn’t stale despite it being a month
Defendant’s thumb print on a beer can found in a burglarized house was a reasonable inference he was involved. The search warrant for his house for stolen property wasn’t stale because it was reasonable to believe he would still be … Continue reading
S.D.Ohio: Warrant was still particular because attachments were present at time of search
The search warrants here were particular because the affidavits and attachments were incorporated by reference and present at the time of the search. The temporal limitations on the warrant were not vague and stale. It was limited in scope otherwise. … Continue reading
D.Minn.: Officer’s affidavit showed PC that clothing or proceeds of robbery would be at def’s home seven weeks after robber
This search warrant in bank robbery case wasn’t stale when it was issued about seven weeks after the robbery for defendant’s home. Defendant had been identified as the robber, and the affidavit showed a reasonable probability, based on officer experience, … Continue reading
E.D.Wis.: SW in tax fraud case wasn’t stale despite some information being years old
Defendants were indicted in a tax fraud scheme, and some of the information used to get the warrant was years old. The court finds it not stale on the totality because it is a records case and it is common … Continue reading
D.Md.: Excessive force faction of 4A does not apply to property damage claims
The excessive force faction of the Fourth Amendment does not apply to property damage claims. Quality Care Daycare Bup, LLC v. Jones, 2018 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 166292 (D. Md. Sep. 27, 2018). [Plead unreasonableness] In a scheme involving fraudulently obtaining … Continue reading
D.N.M.: Def parked car near his house but left it in gear with the key in the ignition; it was not abandoned
Defendant did not abandon his car. He parked it at his house and went inside. His dog was still inside. The entry into his car was reasonable under the community caretaking function because it was left in gear, and a … Continue reading
M.D.La.: Typo in the address of the place to be searched not fatal where officers surveilled it before
There was an error in the address on the search warrant, but it’s clear to the court that there was no likelihood that the wrong apartment would be searched because the officers had surveilled it. There was reasonable suspicion for … Continue reading
LA4: When state fails to get a SW for def’s medical records, it doesn’t get a do over to fix it
In State v. Skinner, 10 So.3d 1212 (La. 2009), the state supreme court held that there was a state constitutional warrant requirement for defendant’s medical records. Failing to do it right can’t be cured by a later warrant after it’s … Continue reading
CO: Def doesn’t get a jury instruction in a DUI case that the officer could have sought a SW for blood
In a DUI case, defendant was not entitled to a jury instruction that the officer could have sought a search warrant for a blood draw. That’s not a jury question. People v. Gwinn, 2018 COA 130, 2018 Colo. App. LEXIS … Continue reading
M.D.Tenn.: A delivery one week before the SW was supported by 3 known prior sales in 4 months
“Here, the last purchase was made one week before the application for the search warrant. By itself, this does not render the information from the CI stale. … Besides, ‘even if a significant period of time elapsed, it is possible … Continue reading