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"If it was easy, everybody would be doing it. It isn't, and they don't."
—Me -
"Life is not a matter of holding good cards, but of playing a poor hand well."
–Josh Billings (pseudonym of Henry Wheeler Shaw), Josh Billings on Ice, and Other Things (1868) (erroneously attributed to Robert Louis Stevenson, among others) -
“I am still learning.”
—Domenico Giuntalodi (but misattributed to Michelangelo Buonarroti (common phrase throughout 1500's)). -
"Love work; hate mastery over others; and avoid intimacy with the government."
—Shemaya, in the Thalmud -
"It is a pleasant world we live in, sir, a very pleasant world. There are bad people in it, Mr. Richard, but if there were no bad people, there would be no good lawyers."
—Charles Dickens, “The Old Curiosity Shop ... With a Frontispiece. From a Painting by Geo. Cattermole, Etc.” 255 (1848) -
"A system of law that not only makes certain conduct criminal, but also lays down rules for the conduct of the authorities, often becomes complex in its application to individual cases, and will from time to time produce imperfect results, especially if one's attention is confined to the particular case at bar. Some criminals do go free because of the necessity of keeping government and its servants in their place. That is one of the costs of having and enforcing a Bill of Rights. This country is built on the assumption that the cost is worth paying, and that in the long run we are all both freer and safer if the Constitution is strictly enforced."
—Williams v. Nix, 700 F. 2d 1164, 1173 (8th Cir. 1983) (Richard Sheppard Arnold, J.), rev'd Nix v. Williams, 467 US. 431 (1984). -
"The criminal goes free, if he must, but it is the law that sets him free. Nothing can destroy a government more quickly than its failure to observe its own laws, or worse, its disregard of the charter of its own existence."
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"Any costs the exclusionary rule are costs imposed directly by the Fourth Amendment."
—Yale Kamisar, 86 Mich.L.Rev. 1, 36 n. 151 (1987). -
"There have been powerful hydraulic pressures throughout our history that bear heavily on the Court to water down constitutional guarantees and give the police the upper hand. That hydraulic pressure has probably never been greater than it is today."
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"The great end, for which men entered into society, was to secure their property."
—Entick v. Carrington, 19 How.St.Tr. 1029, 1066, 95 Eng. Rep. 807 (C.P. 1765) -
"It is a fair summary of history to say that the safeguards of liberty have frequently been forged in controversies involving not very nice people. And so, while we are concerned here with a shabby defrauder, we must deal with his case in the context of what are really the great themes expressed by the Fourth Amendment."
—United States v. Rabinowitz, 339 U.S. 56, 69 (1950) (Frankfurter, J., dissenting) -
"The course of true law pertaining to searches and seizures, as enunciated here, has not–to put it mildly–run smooth."
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"A search is a search, even if it happens to disclose nothing but the bottom of a turntable."
—Arizona v. Hicks, 480 U.S. 321, 325 (1987) -
"For the Fourth Amendment protects people, not places. What a person knowingly exposes to the public, even in his own home or office, is not a subject of Fourth Amendment protection. ... But what he seeks to preserve as private, even in an area accessible to the public, may be constitutionally protected."
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“Experience should teach us to be most on guard to protect liberty when the Government’s purposes are beneficent. Men born to freedom are naturally alert to repel invasion of their liberty by evil-minded
rulers. The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well-meaning but without understanding.”
—United States v. Olmstead, 277 U.S. 438, 479 (1925) (Brandeis, J., dissenting)
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“Liberty—the freedom from unwarranted intrusion by government—is as easily lost through insistent nibbles by government officials who seek to do their jobs too well as by those whose purpose it is to oppress; the piranha can be as deadly as the shark.”
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"You can't always get what you want / But if you try sometimes / You just might find / You get what you need."
—Mick Jagger & Keith Richards, Let it Bleed (album, 1969) -
"In Germany, they first came for the communists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a communist. Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew. Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist. Then they came for
the Catholics and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Catholic. Then they came
for me–and by that time there was nobody left to speak up."
—Martin Niemöller (1945) [he served seven years in a concentration camp] -
“Children grow up thinking the adult world is ordered, rational, fit for purpose. It’s crap. Becoming a man is realising that it’s all rotten. Realising how to celebrate that rottenness, that’s freedom.”
– John le Carré, The Night Manager (1993), line by Richard Roper -
"The point of the Fourth Amendment, which often is not grasped by zealous officers, is not that it denies law enforcement the support of the usual inferences which reasonable men draw from evidence. Its protection consists in requiring that those inferences be drawn by a neutral and detached magistrate instead of being judged by the officer engaged in the often competitive enterprise of ferreting out crime."
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Category Archives: Reasonableness
IL: There are no degrees of illegality in 4A cases with differing standards
There are no degrees of illegality in Fourth Amendment cases with differing standards. People v. Massamillo, 2020 IL App (3d) 190765, 2020 Ill. App. LEXIS 754 (Nov. 9, 2020):
KS: Officer’s delay by seeking backup for safety reasons during nighttime stop where he was outnumbered was reasonable
“From the initiation of the traffic stop at 3:23 a.m. until the moment when Officer Trout observed drug paraphernalia in plain view next to Lutz, the stop was not measurably extended beyond its basic objective of processing the observed traffic … Continue reading
New Yorker: How a C.I.A. Coverup Targeted a Whistle-blower [on “intelligence laundering”]
New Yorker: How a C.I.A. Coverup Targeted a Whistle-blower by Ronan Farrow (“When a Justice Department lawyer exposed the agency’s secret role in drug cases, leadership in the intelligence community retaliated.”):
D.Mass.: Def accidentally lost his fanny pack in flight; court finds abandonment even though he didn’t intend it
The court finds defendant abandoned his fanny pack which he said was strapped over his chest and fell off during flight from the police. He testified he didn’t intentionally drop the fanny pack, and it must have slipped off while … Continue reading
KY: Traffic stop was unreasonably delayed for drug dog
The officers delayed the stop to get the drug dog to the scene. The court of appeals erred, however, in not determining reasonable suspicion. Commonwealth v. Mitchell, 2020 Ky. LEXIS 394 (Oct. 29, 2020):
D.Idaho: Even if smell of MJ only justifies search of passenger compartment, finding nothing extends it to trunk
Defendant argues that the smell of marijuana during a traffic stop only permitted a search of the passenger compartment of his vehicle. When the officer didn’t find any marijuana there, it was justified to search the trunk. United States v. … Continue reading
N.D.Ill.: “Whether the driver actually committed the violation is beside the point.” It’s whether it’s based on a reasonable belief
The dashcam video of defendant’s alleged failure to come to a full stop doesn’t contradict the officer’s testimony that defendant didn’t stop. “Whether the driver actually committed the violation is beside the point.” United States v. Sanders, 2020 U.S. Dist. … Continue reading
DE: “Being advised of potential lawful authority is not a violation of Fourth Amendment Rights.”
“Advising a person of legitimate consequences [of a BAC test] is not considered coercion. Being advised of potential lawful authority is not a violation of Fourth Amendment Rights.” State v. Street, 2020 Del. Super. LEXIS 2791 (Sept. 17, 2020). When … Continue reading
NM & N.D.Iowa: Arrest or stop after NCIC check was reasonable
Defendant’s arrest after an NCIC check showed warrants for him was reasonable. State v. Widmer, 2020 N.M. App. LEXIS 41 (Sept. 15, 2020). To the same effect is United States v. Bullock, 020 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 170229 (N.D. Iowa Aug. … Continue reading
N.D.Miss.: In wrongful death action, officer’s subjective intent offered by 404(b) evidence is inadmissible; reasonableness is objective
Because the reasonableness standard is based on objective evidence confronting the officer, the use of 404(b) evidence here would be too extraneous to show subjective intent. “Because reasonableness under the Fourth Amendment is disconnected from an officer’s subjective intent, the … Continue reading
CA3: State court suppression of search isn’t favorable termination for malicious prosecution case
Just because the evidence was suppressed in plaintiff’s criminal case and then affirmed on appeal doesn’t mean the criminal case was terminated in his favor on the facts. He possessed heroin, and that’s not in dispute, and there was probable … Continue reading
IL: Mistaken application of unambiguous statute not a Heien reasonable mistake of law
“Kinsella misinterpreted an unambiguous statute, thereby committing an unreasonable mistake of law. See Gaytan, 2015 IL 116223, ¶ 45; see also United States v. Stanbridge, 813 F.3d 1032, 1037-38 (7th Cir. 2016) (‘[The officer] simply was wrong about what the … Continue reading
W.D.Mo.: Mask ordinance doesn’t violate 4A right of privacy
The City of Springfield mask ordinance does not violate, inter alia, the Fourth Amendment right to privacy. Shelton v. City of Springfield, 6:20-cv-03258 (W.D. Mo. Sept. 2, 2020). “In specifically detailing the criminal conduct under investigation, the search warrants provide … Continue reading
NY: Stop because license plate reader erroneously said car should have still been in impound lot was unreasonable
The stop here was based a license plate search. The Buffalo impound lot had not updated its records that defendant got his car out of impound more than a week earlier. There was no traffic violation. The stop was unreasonable … Continue reading
OH2: Officer may ask motorist if he’s armed
A police officer may ask a stopped motorist in a traffic stop whether he is armed without violating the Fourth Amendment. State v. Ferguson, 2020-Ohio-4153, 2020 Ohio App. LEXIS 3051 (2d Dist. Aug. 21, 2020). Defendant’s traffic stop evolved into … Continue reading
CA10: No distinction between civil and criminal traffic infractions under the 4A
There is no distinction between civil and criminal traffic infractions under the Fourth Amendment under Whren and Arizona v. Johnson. Even a patdown can occur in a civil infraction stop. United States v. Meadows, 2020 U.S. App. LEXIS 26120 (10th … Continue reading
FL4: Surreptitious video surveillance in Kraft spa case was unreasonable for lack of minimization
The warranted video surveillance of the spa in the Kraft case was unreasonable for lack of minimization to protect privacy. The law on surreptitious surveillance and minimization is well settled. “The type of law enforcement surveillance utilized in these cases … Continue reading