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"Life is not a matter of holding good cards, but of playing a poor hand well."
–Josh Billings (pseudonym of Henry Wheeler Shaw), Josh Billings on Ice, and Other Things (1868) (erroneously attributed to Robert Louis Stevenson, among others) -
“I am still learning.”
—Domenico Giuntalodi (but misattributed to Michelangelo Buonarroti (common phrase throughout 1500's)). -
"Love work; hate mastery over others; and avoid intimacy with the government."
—Shemaya, in the Thalmud -
"It is a pleasant world we live in, sir, a very pleasant world. There are bad people in it, Mr. Richard, but if there were no bad people, there would be no good lawyers."
—Charles Dickens, “The Old Curiosity Shop ... With a Frontispiece. From a Painting by Geo. Cattermole, Etc.” 255 (1848) -
"A system of law that not only makes certain conduct criminal, but also lays down rules for the conduct of the authorities, often becomes complex in its application to individual cases, and will from time to time produce imperfect results, especially if one's attention is confined to the particular case at bar. Some criminals do go free because of the necessity of keeping government and its servants in their place. That is one of the costs of having and enforcing a Bill of Rights. This country is built on the assumption that the cost is worth paying, and that in the long run we are all both freer and safer if the Constitution is strictly enforced."
—Williams v. Nix, 700 F. 2d 1164, 1173 (8th Cir. 1983) (Richard Sheppard Arnold, J.), rev'd Nix v. Williams, 467 US. 431 (1984). -
"The criminal goes free, if he must, but it is the law that sets him free. Nothing can destroy a government more quickly than its failure to observe its own laws, or worse, its disregard of the charter of its own existence."
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"Any costs the exclusionary rule are costs imposed directly by the Fourth Amendment."
—Yale Kamisar, 86 Mich.L.Rev. 1, 36 n. 151 (1987). -
"There have been powerful hydraulic pressures throughout our history that bear heavily on the Court to water down constitutional guarantees and give the police the upper hand. That hydraulic pressure has probably never been greater than it is today."
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"The great end, for which men entered into society, was to secure their property."
—Entick v. Carrington, 19 How.St.Tr. 1029, 1066, 95 Eng. Rep. 807 (C.P. 1765) -
"It is a fair summary of history to say that the safeguards of liberty have frequently been forged in controversies involving not very nice people. And so, while we are concerned here with a shabby defrauder, we must deal with his case in the context of what are really the great themes expressed by the Fourth Amendment."
—United States v. Rabinowitz, 339 U.S. 56, 69 (1950) (Frankfurter, J., dissenting) -
"The course of true law pertaining to searches and seizures, as enunciated here, has not–to put it mildly–run smooth."
—Chapman v. United States, 365 U.S. 610, 618 (1961) (Frankfurter, J., concurring). -
"A search is a search, even if it happens to disclose nothing but the bottom of a turntable."
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"For the Fourth Amendment protects people, not places. What a person knowingly exposes to the public, even in his own home or office, is not a subject of Fourth Amendment protection. ... But what he seeks to preserve as private, even in an area accessible to the public, may be constitutionally protected."
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“Experience should teach us to be most on guard to protect liberty when the Government’s purposes are beneficent. Men born to freedom are naturally alert to repel invasion of their liberty by evil-minded
rulers. The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well-meaning but without understanding.”
—United States v. Olmstead, 277 U.S. 438, 479 (1925) (Brandeis, J., dissenting)
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“Liberty—the freedom from unwarranted intrusion by government—is as easily lost through insistent nibbles by government officials who seek to do their jobs too well as by those whose purpose it is to oppress; the piranha can be as deadly as the shark.”
—United States v. $124,570, 873 F.2d 1240, 1246 (9th Cir. 1989) -
"You can't always get what you want / But if you try sometimes / You just might find / You get what you need."
—Mick Jagger & Keith Richards, Let it Bleed (album, 1969) -
"In Germany, they first came for the communists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a communist. Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew. Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist. Then they came for
the Catholics and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Catholic. Then they came
for me–and by that time there was nobody left to speak up."
—Martin Niemöller (1945) [he served seven years in a concentration camp] -
“Children grow up thinking the adult world is ordered, rational, fit for purpose. It’s crap. Becoming a man is realising that it’s all rotten. Realising how to celebrate that rottenness, that’s freedom.”
– John le Carré, The Night Manager (1993), line by Richard Roper -
"The point of the Fourth Amendment, which often is not grasped by zealous officers, is not that it denies law enforcement the support of the usual inferences which reasonable men draw from evidence. Its protection consists in requiring that those inferences be drawn by a neutral and detached magistrate instead of being judged by the officer engaged in the often competitive enterprise of ferreting out crime."
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Category Archives: Reasonable suspicion
S.D.N.Y.: Brady violation included govt’s review of “raw state search warrant returns” disclosed during trial
The government disclosed an exculpatory document during trial and buried in a disclosure of previously disclosed information. “Astonishingly, even in its latest filings, the Government has informed the Court of yet another failure of disclosure in this case related to … Continue reading
IL: Rodriguez was not a new rule of law; it restated Caballes
Rodriguez was not a new rule of law; it restated Caballes. The state doesn’t get the benefit of the good faith exception by pointing to it. “At the outset, we note that the State acknowledges that the trial court erred … Continue reading
PA: Because of MMJ, smell of marijuana alone not RS or PC without more
The trial court’s order finding probable cause to search a car just based on the smell of marijuana alone from the passenger compartment is contrary to two state decisions involving medical marijuana and is reversed. Commonwealth v. Shaw, 2021 Pa. … Continue reading
IA: Terry stop questioning doesn’t require a Miranda warning until it gets confrontational
Terry stop questioning doesn’t require a Miranda warning until it gets confrontational and adversarial and the detainee isn’t free to leave. State v. Decanini-Hernandez, 2021 Iowa App. LEXIS 172 (Feb. 17, 2021). Defense counsel wasn’t shown to be ineffective for … Continue reading
Cal.2: Conduct didn’t suggest drug activity, but it justified a stop. “Common sense takes context into account.”
Defendant’s conduct that aroused police suspicion didn’t suggest drug activity, but “Common sense takes context into account.” It was suspicious enough on the totality to permit a Terry stop. People v. Flores, 2021 Cal. App. LEXIS 130 (2d Dist. Feb. … Continue reading
CA5: Some things were innocent in isolation, but they were RS on the totality
Some factors were innocent on their own, but the totality there was reasonable suspicion. United States v. Goodin, 2021 U.S. App. LEXIS 3881 (5th Cir. Feb. 10, 2021)*:
CA11: Reasonableness doesn’t require a stop as soon as RS develops
An officer who observed a traffic offense and waited for defendant to drive another five blocks could reasonably still stop the car. “Although the officers did not initiate the traffic stop for seven minutes, and did not pull Brown over … Continue reading
NE: Three day old information vehicle was involved in a shooting was RS
There was reasonable suspicion for the stop of defendant’s vehicle on a three day old report of it being involved in a shooting. On appeal from a denial of a motion to suppress, the evidence from both the suppression hearing … Continue reading
AL: A visitor to premises targeted by a SW who is more than a “transient visitor” is subject to search
Defendant was a visitor at a house that was searched under a warrant for drugs. Her purse was searched, too. “Because Powers was more than a ‘transient visitor’ at Moyers’s house and had a known relationship to the premises, and … Continue reading
N.D.Cal.: Smell of MJ in a car in California isn’t PC
“[T]he mere presence of marijuana or the commission of a marijuana-related vehicle infraction in a state where adults may legally possess and transport it does not give officers probable cause to suspect that a vehicle contains contraband.” United States v. … Continue reading
S.D.Ga.: Fact an officer knew of suspect from prior contact doesn’t preclude running name and dob for warrants
The fact an officer knew a suspect from prior interactions doesn’t mean that the officer can’t run the name and dob for warrants. New Covenant Church v. Futch, 2021 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 22523 (S.D. Ga. Feb. 5, 2021). Defense counsel … Continue reading
N.D.Ind.: Week old crime justified detention on RS
Defendant was a passenger in a car stopped and he was suspected of being involved in a shooting a week earlier. Even this old crime was sufficient for reasonable suspicion to extend the stop. United States v. Seymour, 2021 U.S. … Continue reading
CA11: Furtive gesture of hiding a cigarette pack was RS
The furtive gesture of hiding a cigarette pack during a traffic stop was reasonable suspicion (along with a few other reasons, but this is more important). United States v. Williams, 2021 U.S. App. LEXIS 3123 (11th Cir. Feb. 4, 2021). … Continue reading
CA4: No RS to detain ptf to require him to ID himself; no QI
The officer here lacked reasonable suspicion to refuse to release plaintiff without plaintiff identifying himself under Hiibel and Brown. Moreover, there was enough case law on the subject to put him on notice to deny qualified immunity. Wingate v. Fulford, … Continue reading
MO: Trial court erred in shifting burden on voluntariness of consent to def and considering failure to testify at suppression hearing
The trial court erred in putting the burden of proof on the defendant to rebut the state’s claim of consent. He didn’t testify, but he cross-examined. The trial court also held against him the failure to testify. State v. Crum, … Continue reading
D.Mass.: No REP in an apt wrongfully entered by def
Defendant had no objective reasonable expectation of privacy in an apartment he wrongfully entered and assaulted the occupant. A black case he kept there had a subjective expectation of privacy but not an objective one. United States v. John, 2021 … Continue reading
D.N.M.: M.R.E. 315 and 4A permit oral applications and search authorizations
M.R.E. 315 provides for search authorizations, and this one wasn’t an anticipatory warrant with conditions. Oral applications and authorizations are constitutionally proper per United States v. Brown, 784 F.2d 1033, 1036 (10th Cir. 1986). An Air Force regulation on the … Continue reading
CA3: No RS; def’s actions were innocuous individually and on the totality; reversed
Defendant’s actions that the district court held were reasonable suspicion were innocuous on the totality, and the CI was not corroborated. The motion to suppress should have been granted. United States v. Bullock, 2021 U.S. App. LEXIS 2499 (3d Cir. … Continue reading
OR: Outstanding warrant on passenger alone doesn’t justify frisk of driver
The fact the passenger had an outstanding warrant didn’t show reasonable suspicion for a frisk of the driver for officer safety. State v. Goguen, 308 Ore. App. 706, 2021 Ore. App. LEXIS 75 (Jan. 27, 2021).* “We agree with the … Continue reading
GA: Paperwork during stop was returned and stop should have ended, but it didn’t
The stop was unreasonably extended for a dog sniff. The paperwork had been returned and they were told they were free to go. “Thus, the officers prolonged the traffic stop after the mission of the stop was completed in order … Continue reading