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—Me -
"Life is not a matter of holding good cards, but of playing a poor hand well."
–Josh Billings (pseudonym of Henry Wheeler Shaw), Josh Billings on Ice, and Other Things (1868) (erroneously attributed to Robert Louis Stevenson, among others) -
“I am still learning.”
—Domenico Giuntalodi (but misattributed to Michelangelo Buonarroti (common phrase throughout 1500's)). -
"Love work; hate mastery over others; and avoid intimacy with the government."
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"It is a pleasant world we live in, sir, a very pleasant world. There are bad people in it, Mr. Richard, but if there were no bad people, there would be no good lawyers."
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"A system of law that not only makes certain conduct criminal, but also lays down rules for the conduct of the authorities, often becomes complex in its application to individual cases, and will from time to time produce imperfect results, especially if one's attention is confined to the particular case at bar. Some criminals do go free because of the necessity of keeping government and its servants in their place. That is one of the costs of having and enforcing a Bill of Rights. This country is built on the assumption that the cost is worth paying, and that in the long run we are all both freer and safer if the Constitution is strictly enforced."
—Williams v. Nix, 700 F. 2d 1164, 1173 (8th Cir. 1983) (Richard Sheppard Arnold, J.), rev'd Nix v. Williams, 467 US. 431 (1984). -
"The criminal goes free, if he must, but it is the law that sets him free. Nothing can destroy a government more quickly than its failure to observe its own laws, or worse, its disregard of the charter of its own existence."
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"Any costs the exclusionary rule are costs imposed directly by the Fourth Amendment."
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"There have been powerful hydraulic pressures throughout our history that bear heavily on the Court to water down constitutional guarantees and give the police the upper hand. That hydraulic pressure has probably never been greater than it is today."
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"The great end, for which men entered into society, was to secure their property."
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"It is a fair summary of history to say that the safeguards of liberty have frequently been forged in controversies involving not very nice people. And so, while we are concerned here with a shabby defrauder, we must deal with his case in the context of what are really the great themes expressed by the Fourth Amendment."
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"The course of true law pertaining to searches and seizures, as enunciated here, has not–to put it mildly–run smooth."
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“Experience should teach us to be most on guard to protect liberty when the Government’s purposes are beneficent. Men born to freedom are naturally alert to repel invasion of their liberty by evil-minded rulers. The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well-meaning but without understanding.”
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intrusion by government—is as easily lost through insistent nibbles by
government officials who seek to do their jobs too well as by those whose purpose
it is to oppress; the piranha can be as deadly as the shark.”
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"In Germany, they first came for the communists, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a communist. Then they came for the Jews, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist. Then they came for the Catholics and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Catholic. Then they came for me–and by that time there was nobody left to speak up."
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“Children grow up thinking the adult world is ordered, rational, fit for purpose. It’s crap. Becoming a man is realising that it’s all rotten. Realising how to celebrate that rottenness, that’s freedom.”
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"The point of the Fourth Amendment, which often is not grasped by zealous officers, is not that it denies law enforcement the support of the usual inferences which reasonable men draw from evidence. Its protection consists in requiring that those inferences be drawn by a neutral and detached magistrate instead of being judged by the officer engaged in the often competitive enterprise of ferreting out crime."
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Category Archives: Attenuation
CA8: Def’s statement was attenuated from the false statement that led to the SW being issued
An untrue statement in an affidavit for search warrant was attenuated from defendant’s later confession. All four factors of the attenuation doctrine weighed in favor of not suppressing statements defendant made during his interview with the agent. The causal connection … Continue reading
D.Idaho: Def’s flight from an unreasonable stop, after initial detention, wasn’t attenuated
Defendant’s flight and dropping gun from an illegal arrest here wasn’t an intervening circumstance. There was nothing in the 911 call that justified defendant’s stop in the first place. Defendant complied at first, and then fled. United States v. Gallinger, … Continue reading
E.D.Pa.: No attenuation to save statement made after arrest w/o PC
No attenuation: defendant was arrested without probable cause and gave a statement, and there is no intervening event. Statement suppressed. United States v. Vilella, 2016 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 168741 (E.D.Pa. Dec. 6, 2016):
M.D.La.: Later suppression of drugs that led to indictment and finding more drugs on arrest doesn’t suppress the second find
Defendant was subjected to a search and arrested with drugs. He was indicted on that. When executing the arrest warrant, officers found defendant with more drugs. After that, defendant succeeded in suppressing the evidence in the first case that led … Continue reading
ID: The state conceded the DL held too long, but taint was not purged, so suppression should have been granted
The trial court erred in denying defendant’s motion to suppress and in finding that the evidence was purged from the taint of an unlawful detention. The State conceded that an unlawful seizure occurred when the officer held onto defendant’s driver’s … Continue reading
Utah v. Strieff, 2016 Supplement, § 10.02; maybe overcoming Strieff
Utah v. Strieff is discussed in six sections in the 2016 supplement, primarily in § 10.02: § 10.02 on the attenuation doctrine Page 10-12 Add at end of section: In Utah v. Strieff,63 the officer had been tipped that drugs … Continue reading
SCOTUS: Utah v. Strieff: Even if stop lacked RS, finding an arrest warrant on def justified his search; the warrant is attenuated from the stop (so they can violate the 4A if there’s a warrant out)
Defendant was stopped leaving a drug house under surveillance. He gave his name, and an arrest warrant came back for him. Attenuation is found without regard to the validity of the stop. The attenuation doctrine is not limited to the … Continue reading
E.D.Tex.: Alleged police induced private search in SW affidavit mooted by fact remainder still shows PC
Defendant’s landlord conducted a private search of his apartment and brought out 2 lbs of meth to the police saying there was more inside. He argues that this information in a search warrant application should be purged because the landlord … Continue reading
OR: Even if stop invalid, false name given to officer is attenuated
While the officer at the suppression hearing couldn’t remember the basis for the traffic stop, the crux was that defendant gave a false name when arrested, and that was an independent illegality attenuated from the stop. The false name charge … Continue reading
Two on detentions without cause and no attenuation
Officers were running license numbers of cars on a drug store parking lot and found one where the owner had warrants out for him. When the driver showed up, and he generally matched the description of the owner, he fled … Continue reading
E.D.N.Y.: Pretextual administrative search of liquor permitted premises still valid, and SW had plenty of PC despite that
Defendant’s store in Brooklyn was a front for a cocaine operation. The store also had a liquor license. The government developed substantial probable cause, yet first entered the store to conduct an administrative inspection of the permitted premises. A subsequent … Continue reading
N.D.Ill.: With arrest in driveway on a fake drug deal, govt fails to show entry into garage was inevitable; cash suppressed
Defendant was handcuffed and questioned in his driveway about a CI’s planned transaction with him that the government controlled. He was handcuffed in his driveway and 10 officers were there. The court finds his statements about the money in his … Continue reading
WI: Police had independent source of information of CP to search computer seized in connection with wife’s suicide investigation
Defendant’s wife allegedly committed suicide. In the investigation, the police interviewed their daughter and she said that her mother was using her computer just before her death. The computer was seized as a part of the suicide investigation. Later the … Continue reading
OR: Search incident to arrest warrant found on unlawful detention suppressed; no attenuation
An unlawful detention without reasonable suspicion led to a warrants check, finding a warrant, and then a search. Since the stop was unreasonable, the finding of the warrant could not be attenuated from it. State v. Benning, 273 Ore. App. … Continue reading
TN: CI’s reliability mooted by trash pull
Whether the CI was reliable was essentially moot based on a trash pull that showed all kinds of marijuana cuttings. State v. Altman, 2015 Tenn. Crim. App. LEXIS 556 (July 13, 2015).* [Usually, the courts say that the CI was … Continue reading
MA: Def’s statement during allegedly illegal entry into his house was spontaneous and attenuated
Police turned a snitch who said he just bought cocaine from defendant. Police determined defendant was on probation and had a prior federal trafficking conviction. They lured him out of the house, and they entered for a sweep. Even if … Continue reading
TX: Observed speeding justified stop although pre-Jones GPS also showed def speeding
A tracking device was put on defendant’s vehicle via a court order under a statute that required only reasonable suspicion. Jones came later and required probable cause. Nevertheless, defendant’s speeding stop was justified by the intervening circumstance of the police … Continue reading
CA9: Witness’s later testimony revealed doubt on private search; remanded for that and whether there was a Brady violation
This case arose from a mortgage fraud indictment and trial where a combined Brady/Fourth Amendment issue arose after the trial. The government’s lead witness in procuring evidence testified after the trial that the defendant’s records were procured at the request … Continue reading