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—Me -
"Life is not a matter of holding good cards, but of playing a poor hand well."
–Josh Billings (pseudonym of Henry Wheeler Shaw), Josh Billings on Ice, and Other Things (1868) (erroneously attributed to Robert Louis Stevenson, among others) -
“I am still learning.”
—Domenico Giuntalodi (but misattributed to Michelangelo Buonarroti (common phrase throughout 1500's)). -
"Love work; hate mastery over others; and avoid intimacy with the government."
—Shemaya, in the Thalmud -
"It is a pleasant world we live in, sir, a very pleasant world. There are bad people in it, Mr. Richard, but if there were no bad people, there would be no good lawyers."
—Charles Dickens, “The Old Curiosity Shop ... With a Frontispiece. From a Painting by Geo. Cattermole, Etc.” 255 (1848) -
"A system of law that not only makes certain conduct criminal, but also lays down rules for the conduct of the authorities, often becomes complex in its application to individual cases, and will from time to time produce imperfect results, especially if one's attention is confined to the particular case at bar. Some criminals do go free because of the necessity of keeping government and its servants in their place. That is one of the costs of having and enforcing a Bill of Rights. This country is built on the assumption that the cost is worth paying, and that in the long run we are all both freer and safer if the Constitution is strictly enforced."
—Williams v. Nix, 700 F. 2d 1164, 1173 (8th Cir. 1983) (Richard Sheppard Arnold, J.), rev'd Nix v. Williams, 467 US. 431 (1984). -
"The criminal goes free, if he must, but it is the law that sets him free. Nothing can destroy a government more quickly than its failure to observe its own laws, or worse, its disregard of the charter of its own existence."
—Mapp v. Ohio, 367 U.S. 643, 659 (1961). -
"Any costs the exclusionary rule are costs imposed directly by the Fourth Amendment."
—Yale Kamisar, 86 Mich.L.Rev. 1, 36 n. 151 (1987). -
"There have been powerful hydraulic pressures throughout our history that bear heavily on the Court to water down constitutional guarantees and give the police the upper hand. That hydraulic pressure has probably never been greater than it is today."
— Terry v. Ohio, 392 U.S. 1, 39 (1968) (Douglas, J., dissenting). -
"The great end, for which men entered into society, was to secure their property."
—Entick v. Carrington, 19 How.St.Tr. 1029, 1066, 95 Eng. Rep. 807 (C.P. 1765) -
"It is a fair summary of history to say that the safeguards of liberty have frequently been forged in controversies involving not very nice people. And so, while we are concerned here with a shabby defrauder, we must deal with his case in the context of what are really the great themes expressed by the Fourth Amendment."
—United States v. Rabinowitz, 339 U.S. 56, 69 (1950) (Frankfurter, J., dissenting) -
"The course of true law pertaining to searches and seizures, as enunciated here, has not–to put it mildly–run smooth."
—Chapman v. United States, 365 U.S. 610, 618 (1961) (Frankfurter, J., concurring). -
"A search is a search, even if it happens to disclose nothing but the bottom of a turntable."
—Arizona v. Hicks, 480 U.S. 321, 325 (1987) -
"For the Fourth Amendment protects people, not places. What a person knowingly exposes to the public, even in his own home or office, is not a subject of Fourth Amendment protection. ... But what he seeks to preserve as private, even in an area accessible to the public, may be constitutionally protected."
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“Experience should teach us to be most on guard to protect liberty when the Government’s purposes are beneficent. Men born to freedom are naturally alert to repel invasion of their liberty by evil-minded
rulers. The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well-meaning but without understanding.”
—United States v. Olmstead, 277 U.S. 438, 479 (1925) (Brandeis, J., dissenting)
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“Liberty—the freedom from unwarranted intrusion by government—is as easily lost through insistent nibbles by government officials who seek to do their jobs too well as by those whose purpose it is to oppress; the piranha can be as deadly as the shark.”
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"You can't always get what you want / But if you try sometimes / You just might find / You get what you need."
—Mick Jagger & Keith Richards, Let it Bleed (album, 1969) -
"In Germany, they first came for the communists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a communist. Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew. Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist. Then they came for
the Catholics and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Catholic. Then they came
for me–and by that time there was nobody left to speak up."
—Martin Niemöller (1945) [he served seven years in a concentration camp] -
“Children grow up thinking the adult world is ordered, rational, fit for purpose. It’s crap. Becoming a man is realising that it’s all rotten. Realising how to celebrate that rottenness, that’s freedom.”
– John le Carré, The Night Manager (1993), line by Richard Roper -
"The point of the Fourth Amendment, which often is not grasped by zealous officers, is not that it denies law enforcement the support of the usual inferences which reasonable men draw from evidence. Its protection consists in requiring that those inferences be drawn by a neutral and detached magistrate instead of being judged by the officer engaged in the often competitive enterprise of ferreting out crime."
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The book was dedicated in the first (1982) and sixth (2025) editions to Justin William Hall (1975-2025). He was three when this project started in 1978.
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Category Archives: Reasonable suspicion
D.Neb.: No REP in psych hospital’s bathroom stalls
There is no reasonable expectation of privacy in a psych hospital’s bathroom stalls where plaintiff was involuntarily committed. Narcisse v. Kubes, 2019 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 16111 (D. Neb. Feb. 1, 2019). There was reasonable suspicion to stop and detain defendant … Continue reading
WA: Sitting in a car in a parking lot holding a gun is not RS that a crime is going to occur
A report to the police of a man sitting in a car holding a gun in his lap was not reasonable suspicion, and it could not be the basis of a stop. Just holding a gun is not an indication … Continue reading
D.D.C.: Officers’ testimony about smell of PCP was too equivocal to be reliable
The officers’ testimony about allegedly smelling PCP when they stopped defendant was too equivocal through the hearing to be reliable. A patdown of defendant off that alleged smell produced a gun in his pocket. Defendant’s alleged consent to the patdown … Continue reading
OR: In a DUII stop, a request for consent to search is not reasonably related to the basis for the stop; it unreasonably extended it
In a DUII stop, a request for consent to search is not reasonably related to the basis for the stop and it unreasonably extended it. State v. Rondeau, 295 Or. App. 769, 2019 Ore. App. LEXIS 123 (Jan. 24, 2019). … Continue reading
CA5: No RS for def’s stop on totality <50 miles from border
There was no reasonable suspicion on the totality for defendant’s stop less than 50 miles from the U.S.-Mexico border in Texas. Officer’s experience was too limited to provide much of anything. United States v. Freeman, 2019 U.S. App. LEXIS 2622 … Continue reading
D.N.M.: Passenger’s conduct and answers during traffic stop provided RS
The passenger’s conduct here showed reasonable suspicion to continue the stop. United States v. Torres, 2019 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 10590 (D. N.M. Jan. 23, 2019). The government obtained CSLI in 2015 for 57 days of defendants’ cell phones, and the … Continue reading
N.D.Ind.: Mistake as to address for SW was precipitated by def and doesn’t implicate Franks
Mistake as to address (Green v. Gretna) was precipitated by defendant having given a Green Street address during a prior stop. There’s no showing of a deliberate or even reckless falsehood by the officer in getting the state search warrant … Continue reading
FL5: Record doesn’t show no standing in CSLI; remanded
The record does not conclusively show that defendant was without standing to challenge the CSLI from the cell phone at issue. Remanded. Litz v. State, 2019 Fla. App. LEXIS 649 (Fla. 5th DCA Jan. 18, 2019).* A store loss prevention … Continue reading
D.N.M.: Pocket and backpack search and patdown of 21 students at school for stolen money was with RS so officer gets QI
A school security officer gets qualified immunity for a patdown search of 21 students in a class for allegedly stolen money because there was reasonable suspicion as to all 21. Woods v. Rio Rancho Pub. Schs, 2019 U.S. Dist. LEXIS … Continue reading
N.D.Iowa: Six month unjustified delay in getting SW for hard drive made search unreasonable
Six month delay in getting a search warrant for a hard drive in a child pornography case was unreasonable. The government could give a good reason for the delays which might have justified it. Search recommended suppressed. United States v. … Continue reading
E.D.Cal.: Camping in a nonapproved area of Yosemite National Park was a reasonable suspicion
Camping in a nonapproved area of Yosemite National Park after a warning not to was reasonable suspicion for a stop. United States v. Ontiveros, 2019 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 2791 (E.D. Cal. Jan. 8, 2019).* Defendant over time filed five motions … Continue reading
CA11: Questioning during stop exceeded Rodriguez, but it was before that, so GFE applies
The stop was reasonable, and the questioning of the motorist was valid at the time it happened (December 2013). Under Rodriguez, however, the stop was unlawfully extended. Under the good faith exception, the detention was still valid. United States v. … Continue reading
W.D.Pa.: Asst prosecutors at an investigation don’t get immunity for 4A violation they observed and allegedly condoned
Assistant prosecutors involved in an investigation do not get prosecutorial immunity for silence in the face of an alleged Fourth Amendment violation in their presence they allegedly condone. Fogle v. Pa. State Police, 2018 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 217701 (W.D. Pa. … Continue reading
OH9: No 4A right that RS is needed to run a license plate number
There is no Fourth Amendment right for the officer to have reasonable suspicion to run one’s license plate because there is no reasonable expectation of privacy in it. State v. Moore, 2018-Ohio-5223, 2018 Ohio App. LEXIS 5527 (9th Dist. Dec. … Continue reading
W.D.N.Y.: Alleged state procedural errors in issuing SW is irrelevant under 4A in federal court
“As a threshold matter, defendant Nelson’s objection that the search warrant was per se invalid because no verbatim record of the informant’s testimony as required by N.Y.C.P.L. § 690.36 was preserved is mistaken. Whether the search warrant for the defendant’s … Continue reading
CA2: Anonymous 911 call of man waving a gun satisfied Navarette
This anonymous 911 call of a menacing man with a weapon was reliable enough for a stop. The caller stayed on the phone after asking it not be recorded but told all 911 calls are, there was detail about the … Continue reading
OH11: When def’s ID showed he wasn’t subject to an order of protection, questions about drugs unreasonably extended stop
Defendant was stopped and the officer asked for his ID to determine whether defendant was subject to an order of protection. He wasn’t. Then the officer started asking about drugs, and he didn’t like the form of defendant’s answer. That … Continue reading
N.D.Ga.: SW for CP permitted search of entire dwelling; it wasn’t apparent to officers def had a roommate
Defendant’s email and IP address connected him to receipt of child pornography. The search warrant for his entire home for child pornography was valid even though defendant had a roommate. There’s no constitutional requirement for police to go to great … Continue reading
S.D.Ohio: Reasonable to put def in police car where he had no DL or registration to car while they checked it out
It was reasonable for officers to put defendant in their vehicle when he had no DL or registration for the vehicle he was driving while they checked it out. “The officers ran Bonner’s name through their databases and learned that … Continue reading