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"Life is not a matter of holding good cards, but of playing a poor hand well."
–Josh Billings (pseudonym of Henry Wheeler Shaw), Josh Billings on Ice, and Other Things (1868) (erroneously attributed to Robert Louis Stevenson, among others) -
“I am still learning.”
—Domenico Giuntalodi (but misattributed to Michelangelo Buonarroti (common phrase throughout 1500's)). -
"Love work; hate mastery over others; and avoid intimacy with the government."
—Shemaya, in the Thalmud -
"It is a pleasant world we live in, sir, a very pleasant world. There are bad people in it, Mr. Richard, but if there were no bad people, there would be no good lawyers."
—Charles Dickens, “The Old Curiosity Shop ... With a Frontispiece. From a Painting by Geo. Cattermole, Etc.” 255 (1848) -
"A system of law that not only makes certain conduct criminal, but also lays down rules for the conduct of the authorities, often becomes complex in its application to individual cases, and will from time to time produce imperfect results, especially if one's attention is confined to the particular case at bar. Some criminals do go free because of the necessity of keeping government and its servants in their place. That is one of the costs of having and enforcing a Bill of Rights. This country is built on the assumption that the cost is worth paying, and that in the long run we are all both freer and safer if the Constitution is strictly enforced."
—Williams v. Nix, 700 F. 2d 1164, 1173 (8th Cir. 1983) (Richard Sheppard Arnold, J.), rev'd Nix v. Williams, 467 US. 431 (1984). -
"The criminal goes free, if he must, but it is the law that sets him free. Nothing can destroy a government more quickly than its failure to observe its own laws, or worse, its disregard of the charter of its own existence."
—Mapp v. Ohio, 367 U.S. 643, 659 (1961). -
"Any costs the exclusionary rule are costs imposed directly by the Fourth Amendment."
—Yale Kamisar, 86 Mich.L.Rev. 1, 36 n. 151 (1987). -
"There have been powerful hydraulic pressures throughout our history that bear heavily on the Court to water down constitutional guarantees and give the police the upper hand. That hydraulic pressure has probably never been greater than it is today."
— Terry v. Ohio, 392 U.S. 1, 39 (1968) (Douglas, J., dissenting). -
"The great end, for which men entered into society, was to secure their property."
—Entick v. Carrington, 19 How.St.Tr. 1029, 1066, 95 Eng. Rep. 807 (C.P. 1765) -
"It is a fair summary of history to say that the safeguards of liberty have frequently been forged in controversies involving not very nice people. And so, while we are concerned here with a shabby defrauder, we must deal with his case in the context of what are really the great themes expressed by the Fourth Amendment."
—United States v. Rabinowitz, 339 U.S. 56, 69 (1950) (Frankfurter, J., dissenting) -
"The course of true law pertaining to searches and seizures, as enunciated here, has not–to put it mildly–run smooth."
—Chapman v. United States, 365 U.S. 610, 618 (1961) (Frankfurter, J., concurring). -
"A search is a search, even if it happens to disclose nothing but the bottom of a turntable."
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"For the Fourth Amendment protects people, not places. What a person knowingly exposes to the public, even in his own home or office, is not a subject of Fourth Amendment protection. ... But what he seeks to preserve as private, even in an area accessible to the public, may be constitutionally protected."
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“Experience should teach us to be most on guard to protect liberty when the Government’s purposes are beneficent. Men born to freedom are naturally alert to repel invasion of their liberty by evil-minded
rulers. The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well-meaning but without understanding.”
—United States v. Olmstead, 277 U.S. 438, 479 (1925) (Brandeis, J., dissenting)
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“Liberty—the freedom from unwarranted intrusion by government—is as easily lost through insistent nibbles by government officials who seek to do their jobs too well as by those whose purpose it is to oppress; the piranha can be as deadly as the shark.”
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"You can't always get what you want / But if you try sometimes / You just might find / You get what you need."
—Mick Jagger & Keith Richards, Let it Bleed (album, 1969) -
"In Germany, they first came for the communists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a communist. Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew. Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist. Then they came for
the Catholics and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Catholic. Then they came
for me–and by that time there was nobody left to speak up."
—Martin Niemöller (1945) [he served seven years in a concentration camp] -
“Children grow up thinking the adult world is ordered, rational, fit for purpose. It’s crap. Becoming a man is realising that it’s all rotten. Realising how to celebrate that rottenness, that’s freedom.”
– John le Carré, The Night Manager (1993), line by Richard Roper -
"The point of the Fourth Amendment, which often is not grasped by zealous officers, is not that it denies law enforcement the support of the usual inferences which reasonable men draw from evidence. Its protection consists in requiring that those inferences be drawn by a neutral and detached magistrate instead of being judged by the officer engaged in the often competitive enterprise of ferreting out crime."
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The book was dedicated in the first (1982) and sixth (2025) editions to Justin William Hall (1975-2025). He was three when this project started in 1978.
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Category Archives: Reasonable suspicion
OH2: Officer’s claim he didn’t know whether def’s bag had a gun was unparticularized and applied to everybody
DTF officers entered a Greyhound bus heading to Detroit to question passengers. Defendant’s stop on the bus and then the frisk of his bag lacked reasonable suspicion. The fact there had been drug couriers on the bus before didn’t mean … Continue reading
E.D.Wis.: RS of carrying drugs described
“In the context of this case [and the totality of circumstances], the question before the court is whether Trooper Callister unreasonably prolonged his stop of Martinez. I conclude he did not. That the initial stop was justified is without dispute. … Continue reading
OH8: Stop justified by running LPN and seeing it was suspended; RS not required to check it
“Here, while Officer Mackensen had no reasonable suspicion that Long was involved in criminal activity before he checked Long’s vehicle’s license plate, he was permitted to do so pursuant to the case law authority. And, once he learned the license … Continue reading
CA11: Anonymous 911 call with eyewitness details was RS
“Bruce insists that the officers had no reason at all to find the anonymous tip reliable, but that’s just not so. For purposes of a brief investigatory detention like the one we consider here, an anonymous 911 call giving eyewitness … Continue reading
CA6: No REP in talking to a friend who was recording it
No matter how much one trusts a friend, there is no reasonable expectation of privacy that the friend won’t have recorded it and revealed it (Hoffa and White). Courser v. Mich. House of Representatives, 2020 U.S. App. LEXIS 31917 (6th … Continue reading
TX6: SW affidavit not admissible at trial
Defendant was prejudiced by admission of the search warrant and affidavit for it over defense objection. When defendant testified he was asked about all his porn, adult and apparent less than adult. [Why did he testify knowing that was coming?] … Continue reading
S.D.Miss.: Def was seized when his car was blocked by a police car and officer approached; there was no RS
Defendant’s car was practically blocked in a parking lot by a police car, and the officer got out and approached him. A reasonable person would not feel free to leave, and he was seized without reasonable suspicion. United States v. … Continue reading
E.D.Wis.: When 911 caller gives name, the police don’t have to verify caller exists
The caller wasn’t anonymous because he gave his name. “The fact that the 911 dispatcher could not confirm that identity does not change that fact. In arguing that the police could not verify [his] credibility, the defendant ignores the facts … Continue reading
S.D.W.Va.: No RS: officer’s description of the alleged threat was too vague to be meaningful at all
There was no reasonable suspicion for defendant’s frisk, and the officer’s description of the alleged threat was too vague to be meaningful at all. United States v. Buskirk, 2020 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 183594 (S.D. W.Va. Oct. 2, 2020)*:
E.D.Ky.: Late night view through def’s apartment window violated Jardines but there was still PC without it
Officers conducted a drug investigation into defendant’s apartment and ultimately went to his window in the night to look in and used a flashlight. That was a violation of the Fourth Amendment under Jardines, and the view has to be … Continue reading
S.D.Ohio: Nervousness of driver and two passengers in rental car wasn’t RS; detention was unreasonable
“The officers here initiated investigative activities that prolonged the traffic stop, but are unable to articulate grounds, existing when they started those investigative activities, giving rise to a reasonable suspicion of criminal conduct. And no exception to the exclusionary rule … Continue reading
MN: Driver’s potential violation of a pretrial release condition justified extending stop
The driver’s potential violation of a pretrial release condition observed by the officer was sufficient justification for extending a traffic stop first based on failure to signal. Violation of a condition of release could be a criminal violation. State v. … Continue reading
GA: Even if pre-Carpenter CSLI was error [not] it was harmless error
Even if the good faith exception doesn’t admit CSLI before Carpenter, it’s harmless error. “At the time of Hill’s 2014 trial, controlling precedent held that a search warrant was not required to obtain cell site location data.” “Here, the cell … Continue reading
PA addresses smell of MJ in a new MMJ state: it’s a factor in RS, and not determinative of RS or PC
Under the Pennsylvania Medical Marijuana Act, the smell of marijuana is only a factor in reasonable suspicion for a detention or probable cause for a search since many Pennsylvanians can now legally possess. There is no per se rule. Presentation … Continue reading
TN: Parole search is a question of standing
Defense counsel wasn’t ineffective for not challenge defendant’s parole search. In fact, “Because the search was a condition of his parole, the petitioner does not have standing to contest the search. Oody, 823 S.W.2d at 560; Turner, 297 S.W.3d at … Continue reading
IA: All exculpatory evidence doesn’t have to be presented to issuing magistrate under Franks
“Case failed to make a preliminary showing to warrant a Franks hearing. See Baker, 925 N.W.2d at 615 (‘[A]n officer applying for a search warrant is not required to present all inculpatory and exculpatory evidence to the magistrate, only that … Continue reading
AR: An anonymous call to police with extraneous detail about a possible DWI was RS
An anonymous call to police (not 911) with extraneous detail about a possible DWI was reasonable suspicion. Gross v. State, 2020 Ark. App. 432 (Sept. 23, 2020):
GA: Tracking stolen cell phone by its find phone app resulted in unlawful entry onto curtilage
Defendant is accused of robbery including stealing a cell phone which was tracked to his house by the find phone app. When police arrived, they found the vehicle described by the victim, and they entered the curtilage without a warrant. … Continue reading
MN: McNeely retroactive where properly pled
“We also conclude that McNeely applies retroactively to Edwards’s test-refusal conviction. Finally, we conclude that the postconviction court erred when it failed to follow the heightened pleading requirement and burden-shifting procedure set out in Fagin. We therefore reverse the postconviction … Continue reading