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"Life is not a matter of holding good cards, but of playing a poor hand well."
–Josh Billings (pseudonym of Henry Wheeler Shaw), Josh Billings on Ice, and Other Things (1868) (erroneously attributed to Robert Louis Stevenson, among others) -
“I am still learning.”
—Domenico Giuntalodi (but misattributed to Michelangelo Buonarroti (common phrase throughout 1500's)). -
"Love work; hate mastery over others; and avoid intimacy with the government."
—Shemaya, in the Thalmud -
"It is a pleasant world we live in, sir, a very pleasant world. There are bad people in it, Mr. Richard, but if there were no bad people, there would be no good lawyers."
—Charles Dickens, “The Old Curiosity Shop ... With a Frontispiece. From a Painting by Geo. Cattermole, Etc.” 255 (1848) -
"A system of law that not only makes certain conduct criminal, but also lays down rules for the conduct of the authorities, often becomes complex in its application to individual cases, and will from time to time produce imperfect results, especially if one's attention is confined to the particular case at bar. Some criminals do go free because of the necessity of keeping government and its servants in their place. That is one of the costs of having and enforcing a Bill of Rights. This country is built on the assumption that the cost is worth paying, and that in the long run we are all both freer and safer if the Constitution is strictly enforced."
—Williams v. Nix, 700 F. 2d 1164, 1173 (8th Cir. 1983) (Richard Sheppard Arnold, J.), rev'd Nix v. Williams, 467 US. 431 (1984). -
"The criminal goes free, if he must, but it is the law that sets him free. Nothing can destroy a government more quickly than its failure to observe its own laws, or worse, its disregard of the charter of its own existence."
—Mapp v. Ohio, 367 U.S. 643, 659 (1961). -
"Any costs the exclusionary rule are costs imposed directly by the Fourth Amendment."
—Yale Kamisar, 86 Mich.L.Rev. 1, 36 n. 151 (1987). -
"There have been powerful hydraulic pressures throughout our history that bear heavily on the Court to water down constitutional guarantees and give the police the upper hand. That hydraulic pressure has probably never been greater than it is today."
— Terry v. Ohio, 392 U.S. 1, 39 (1968) (Douglas, J., dissenting). -
"The great end, for which men entered into society, was to secure their property."
—Entick v. Carrington, 19 How.St.Tr. 1029, 1066, 95 Eng. Rep. 807 (C.P. 1765) -
"It is a fair summary of history to say that the safeguards of liberty have frequently been forged in controversies involving not very nice people. And so, while we are concerned here with a shabby defrauder, we must deal with his case in the context of what are really the great themes expressed by the Fourth Amendment."
—United States v. Rabinowitz, 339 U.S. 56, 69 (1950) (Frankfurter, J., dissenting) -
"The course of true law pertaining to searches and seizures, as enunciated here, has not–to put it mildly–run smooth."
—Chapman v. United States, 365 U.S. 610, 618 (1961) (Frankfurter, J., concurring). -
"A search is a search, even if it happens to disclose nothing but the bottom of a turntable."
—Arizona v. Hicks, 480 U.S. 321, 325 (1987) -
"For the Fourth Amendment protects people, not places. What a person knowingly exposes to the public, even in his own home or office, is not a subject of Fourth Amendment protection. ... But what he seeks to preserve as private, even in an area accessible to the public, may be constitutionally protected."
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“Experience should teach us to be most on guard to protect liberty when the Government’s purposes are beneficent. Men born to freedom are naturally alert to repel invasion of their liberty by evil-minded
rulers. The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well-meaning but without understanding.”
—United States v. Olmstead, 277 U.S. 438, 479 (1925) (Brandeis, J., dissenting)
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“Liberty—the freedom from unwarranted intrusion by government—is as easily lost through insistent nibbles by government officials who seek to do their jobs too well as by those whose purpose it is to oppress; the piranha can be as deadly as the shark.”
—United States v. $124,570, 873 F.2d 1240, 1246 (9th Cir. 1989) -
"You can't always get what you want / But if you try sometimes / You just might find / You get what you need."
—Mick Jagger & Keith Richards, Let it Bleed (album, 1969) -
"In Germany, they first came for the communists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a communist. Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew. Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist. Then they came for
the Catholics and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Catholic. Then they came
for me–and by that time there was nobody left to speak up."
—Martin Niemöller (1945) [he served seven years in a concentration camp] -
“Children grow up thinking the adult world is ordered, rational, fit for purpose. It’s crap. Becoming a man is realising that it’s all rotten. Realising how to celebrate that rottenness, that’s freedom.”
– John le Carré, The Night Manager (1993), line by Richard Roper -
"The point of the Fourth Amendment, which often is not grasped by zealous officers, is not that it denies law enforcement the support of the usual inferences which reasonable men draw from evidence. Its protection consists in requiring that those inferences be drawn by a neutral and detached magistrate instead of being judged by the officer engaged in the often competitive enterprise of ferreting out crime."
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The book was dedicated in the first (1982) and sixth (2025) editions to Justin William Hall (1975-2025). He was three when this project started in 1978.
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Category Archives: Reasonable suspicion
N.D.Iowa: Admissions about one’s own drug use to police during 911 call about unresponsive woman were RS
Police and EMTs responded to a 911 call about an unresponsive woman who later died. At the scene, admissions about defendant’s own drug abuse were made. “The court finds that the information about E.M.’s drug use, particularly when coupled with … Continue reading
D.Idaho: Dog sniff by stopping officer prolonged the stop; effort to show RS fails
The totality of circumstances that the government presents fails to show reasonable suspicion. Defendant was subjected to a dog sniff by the stopping officer without it, and the motion to suppress is granted because it prolonged the stop. United States … Continue reading
Salt Lake Tribune: Trooper who thought man’s Mormon music was suspicious and searched his car violated Fourth Amendment, judge says
Salt Lake Tribune: Trooper who thought man’s Mormon music was suspicious and searched his car violated Fourth Amendment, judge says by Aubrey Wieber:
MN: Birchfield not retroactive
Application of Birchfield in Minnesota was determined to be procedural rather than substantive for purposes of retroactive effect. Johnson v. State, 2018 Minn. App. LEXIS 10 (Jan. 2, 2018). Defendant’s detention was with reasonable suspicion. “Considering the totality of the … Continue reading
NY4: Man with a gun report led police within one minute to couple on street, and def abandoned gun
Police received a call of a man with a shotgun walking with a woman. Officers got there within a minute and saw a couple matching the description. No lights or siren were on. Defendant walked into a grassy area and … Continue reading
NY4: Officer had RS for encounter that def fled from and hid object under leaves in flight
The officer had reasonable suspicion for an encounter and defendant fled from him, hiding an object under leaves in flight which was abandonment. People v. Thacker, 2017 NY Slip Op 09081, 2017 N.Y. App. Div. LEXIS 9104 (4th Dept. Dec. … Continue reading
D.Utah: Officer-caused 2-sec traffic violation was not RS for stop
The officer’s probably unintentional causing of defendant’s traffic violation made the stop unreasonable. Even if the stop was reasonable, there was no reasonable suspicion for continuing it. United States v. Esteban, 2017 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 211294 (D. Utah Dec. 22, … Continue reading
CA10: RS on totality, and most significant factor was occupants’ stories obviously being made up “on the spot”
There was reasonable suspicion on the totality from two factors that didn’t mean a lot on their own (nervousness and unusual travel plans) and one that did: completely inconsistent stories between the driver and passenger obviously being made up “on … Continue reading
MD: Michigan v. Long protective frisk of a car includes looking under floor mats
Defendant was driving in a high crime area and engaging in activity suggesting a drug transaction. When officer stopped his vehicle, he acted suspiciously and made furtive movements. The Michigan v. Long protective sweep of a car includes lifting the … Continue reading
D.Nev.: Despite legalization of recreational marijuana, smell of burnt marijuana in car is RS for detention for impaired driving
Despite the fact the Clark County DA announced they were no longer prosecuting ½ ounce or less marijuana cases along with voters adopting decriminalization of recreational marijuana, defendant’s detention for sleeping in his car in the middle of the Flamingo … Continue reading
CA9: RS here didn’t dissipate during the stop when def got out of car and all kinds of identity theft stuff fell out of his lap
Defendant’s claim that reasonable suspicion for his continued detention would have dissipated is rejected. Defendant was driving a car where the front plate didn’t match the rear plate, and that strongly suggests it was a stolen car, and stolen cars … Continue reading
CA9: Car matching BOLO of bank robbery with two men had only woman driving; stop and continuation was with RS because they could be in trunk (and were)
A person outside a bank robbery believed that two male robbers got into a grey Ford Taurus to flee the scene. He called the police and followed. A little later, he saw that car had a woman driver, and he … Continue reading
D.Kan.: Def’s putting cell phone in daughter’s backpack so she could play with it was not a waiver of REP
Defendant regularly stayed with his grandmother until a few weeks before the search, and by the time of search it was more intermittent. Still, he had standing in her house because he had clothes there and still stayed there. He … Continue reading
PA: Anonymous tip man on specific bus was armed was insufficient for stop and frisk of def
An anonymous tip that a man on a specific bus was carrying a gun was insufficient to stop and frisk the defendant. When the officer drew a gun on him he was detained, and his subsequent actions could not be … Continue reading
FL5: Peeing in a parking lot is RS of “public nudity” justifying a stop
Peeing in a parking lot is reasonable suspicion of “public nudity” justifying a stop. State v. Harris, 2017 Fla. App. LEXIS 18994 (Fla. 5th DCA Dec. 15, 2017). Defendant’s rental company maintenance man was acting as a private citizen when … Continue reading
TX10: Walking away from a traffic stop is the crime of evading detention
For the purposes of the evading arrest or detention statute, defendant fled when he got out of the car and walked away from a lawful detention and did not stop when commanded by officers until he was about 40 feet … Continue reading
E.D.Wis.: Furtive movement toward car during stop justified protective frisk of car
Defendant’s furtive movements toward his car and his agitated state justified a protective frisk of the car. United States v. Vaccaro, 2017 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 205804 (E.D. Wis. Sept. 18, 2017), adopted, 2017 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 204625 (E.D. Wis. Dec. … Continue reading
IL: Def’s stop was without RS, and his flight didn’t add anything to the totality
The stop of the juvenile in this case was without reasonable suspicion and was designed to be a show of authority. The juvenile fled, and, under the totality of circumstances, the court can’t say that it added anything to the … Continue reading
CA8: Domestic call and argument where def was reported armed justified warrantless entry
In a domestic dispute where the police were called, “The warrantless entry was justified by a legitimate and objectively reasonable concern for the safety of Christina Bak and the officers. They had information that Quarterman was making Christina Bak move … Continue reading
PA: No REP in CI recorded video in def’s car during drug transaction; also, motion was out of time and should have been denied on that ground alone
Defendant had no reasonable expectation of privacy in his car under the state constitution from a surreptitious silent video recording of a drug transaction. The trial court erred in granting it. Indeed, the filing of the motion to suppress on … Continue reading