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- CA6: CI’s lie to get into def’s house to video him making a drug deal with the CI didn’t violate 4A
- TN: Def lived in a van left wide open in a public area, but it didn’t belong to him, so no REP as to interior
- VI: Despite ubiquity of cell phones, nexus has to be shown to alleged crime
- N.D.Ga.: PIT maneuver here was not excessive force
- LA4: Acting like carrying a gun and wearing a ski mask in New Orleans in June was RS
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by John Wesley Hall
Criminal Defense Lawyer and
Search and seizure law consultant
Little Rock, Arkansas
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"If it was easy, everybody would be doing it. It isn't, and they don't."
—Me -
"Life is not a matter of holding good cards, but of playing a poor hand well."
–Josh Billings (pseudonym of Henry Wheeler Shaw), Josh Billings on Ice, and Other Things (1868) (erroneously attributed to Robert Louis Stevenson, among others) -
“I am still learning.”
—Domenico Giuntalodi (but misattributed to Michelangelo Buonarroti (common phrase throughout 1500's)). -
"Love work; hate mastery over others; and avoid intimacy with the government."
—Shemaya, in the Thalmud -
"It is a pleasant world we live in, sir, a very pleasant world. There are bad people in it, Mr. Richard, but if there were no bad people, there would be no good lawyers."
—Charles Dickens, “The Old Curiosity Shop ... With a Frontispiece. From a Painting by Geo. Cattermole, Etc.” 255 (1848) -
"A system of law that not only makes certain conduct criminal, but also lays down rules for the conduct of the authorities, often becomes complex in its application to individual cases, and will from time to time produce imperfect results, especially if one's attention is confined to the particular case at bar. Some criminals do go free because of the necessity of keeping government and its servants in their place. That is one of the costs of having and enforcing a Bill of Rights. This country is built on the assumption that the cost is worth paying, and that in the long run we are all both freer and safer if the Constitution is strictly enforced."
—Williams v. Nix, 700 F. 2d 1164, 1173 (8th Cir. 1983) (Richard Sheppard Arnold, J.), rev'd Nix v. Williams, 467 US. 431 (1984). -
"The criminal goes free, if he must, but it is the law that sets him free. Nothing can destroy a government more quickly than its failure to observe its own laws, or worse, its disregard of the charter of its own existence."
—Mapp v. Ohio, 367 U.S. 643, 659 (1961). -
"Any costs the exclusionary rule are costs imposed directly by the Fourth Amendment."
—Yale Kamisar, 86 Mich.L.Rev. 1, 36 n. 151 (1987). -
"There have been powerful hydraulic pressures throughout our history that bear heavily on the Court to water down constitutional guarantees and give the police the upper hand. That hydraulic pressure has probably never been greater than it is today."
— Terry v. Ohio, 392 U.S. 1, 39 (1968) (Douglas, J., dissenting). -
"The great end, for which men entered into society, was to secure their property."
—Entick v. Carrington, 19 How.St.Tr. 1029, 1066, 95 Eng. Rep. 807 (C.P. 1765) -
"It is a fair summary of history to say that the safeguards of liberty have frequently been forged in controversies involving not very nice people. And so, while we are concerned here with a shabby defrauder, we must deal with his case in the context of what are really the great themes expressed by the Fourth Amendment."
—United States v. Rabinowitz, 339 U.S. 56, 69 (1950) (Frankfurter, J., dissenting) -
"The course of true law pertaining to searches and seizures, as enunciated here, has not–to put it mildly–run smooth."
—Chapman v. United States, 365 U.S. 610, 618 (1961) (Frankfurter, J., concurring). -
"A search is a search, even if it happens to disclose nothing but the bottom of a turntable."
—Arizona v. Hicks, 480 U.S. 321, 325 (1987) -
"For the Fourth Amendment protects people, not places. What a person knowingly exposes to the public, even in his own home or office, is not a subject of Fourth Amendment protection. ... But what he seeks to preserve as private, even in an area accessible to the public, may be constitutionally protected."
—Katz v. United States, 389 U.S. 347, 351 (1967) -
“Experience should teach us to be most on guard to protect liberty when the Government’s purposes are beneficent. Men born to freedom are naturally alert to repel invasion of their liberty by evil-minded
rulers. The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well-meaning but without understanding.”
—United States v. Olmstead, 277 U.S. 438, 479 (1925) (Brandeis, J., dissenting)
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“Liberty—the freedom from unwarranted intrusion by government—is as easily lost through insistent nibbles by government officials who seek to do their jobs too well as by those whose purpose it is to oppress; the piranha can be as deadly as the shark.”
—United States v. $124,570, 873 F.2d 1240, 1246 (9th Cir. 1989) -
"You can't always get what you want / But if you try sometimes / You just might find / You get what you need."
—Mick Jagger & Keith Richards, Let it Bleed (album, 1969) -
"In Germany, they first came for the communists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a communist. Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew. Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist. Then they came for
the Catholics and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Catholic. Then they came
for me–and by that time there was nobody left to speak up."
—Martin Niemöller (1945) [he served seven years in a concentration camp] -
“Children grow up thinking the adult world is ordered, rational, fit for purpose. It’s crap. Becoming a man is realising that it’s all rotten. Realising how to celebrate that rottenness, that’s freedom.”
– John le Carré, The Night Manager (1993), line by Richard Roper -
"The point of the Fourth Amendment, which often is not grasped by zealous officers, is not that it denies law enforcement the support of the usual inferences which reasonable men draw from evidence. Its protection consists in requiring that those inferences be drawn by a neutral and detached magistrate instead of being judged by the officer engaged in the often competitive enterprise of ferreting out crime."
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The book was dedicated in the first (1982) and sixth (2025) editions to Justin William Hall (1975-2025). He was three when this project started in 1978.
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Category Archives: Reasonable expectation of privacy
WV: Def left jacket at friend’s house where he occasionally spent the night; no REP at the time of seizure
Defendant was an occasional overnight guest in the home of a friend. He left a jacket there in a common area, and the police seized it by the consent of the homeowner. Defendant had no reasonable expectation of privacy in … Continue reading
CA5 follows CA6 & CA8: No REP on magnetic strip on back of gift cards
“The central issue in this case is whether a law enforcement officer’s scanning of the magnetic stripe on the back of a gift card is a search within the meaning of the Fourth Amendment. We join two other circuits in … Continue reading
OH11: No REP in CI’s recording def in own home
A CI recording the defendant in his own house doesn’t violate any reasonable expectation of privacy. State v. James, 2016-Ohio-7262, 2016 Ohio App. LEXIS 4121 (3d Dist. Oct. 11, 2016). 911 domestic call involving a knife and a Taser on … Continue reading
OR: Mail recipient has a possessory interest in mail in transit; removing it from mail stream for dog sniff was unreasonable (under state constitution)
A US mail recipient has a constitutionally protected privacy interest in the package in transit under the Oregon Constitution, looking to Ex parte Jackson (1877). The package was effectively and unlawfully seized at the Portland airport mail facility for separate … Continue reading
HI: Calling police to garage showed no REP there; plain view sustained
Police summoned to defendant’s house by his 911 call did not intrude on defendant’s subjective or actual reasonable expectation of privacy. A plain view of a hammer as a weapon was thus valid. State v. Phillips, 2016 Haw. LEXIS 234 … Continue reading
Salt Lake Tribune: DEA wants to block ACLU of Utah from prescription drug database suit
Salt Lake Tribune: DEA wants to block ACLU of Utah from prescription drug database suit by Lindsay Whitehurst:
OR: Horse owner didn’t lose privacy interest in horses being cared for by another on other’s property
Third-party property owners who were boarding defendant’s horses had the actual authority to consent to the sheriff’s entry onto their properties. Defendant didn’t have any authority to exclude the owners from particular parts of the properties where her horses stayed. … Continue reading
W.D.Ark.: No QI for officer extending a traffic stop for a drug dog w/o RS
Officer was not entitled to qualified immunity for allegedly extending a traffic stop without reasonable suspicion just to conduct a dog sniff. Gover v. Helder, 2016 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 117417 (W.D.Ark. July 29, 2016). Defendant’s call from book-in jail phone … Continue reading
AlterNet: Why Baltimore’s Covert Spy Plane Program Is a Major Battleground for Privacy and Free Speech
AlterNet: Why Baltimore’s Covert Spy Plane Program Is a Major Battleground for Privacy and Free Speech by Carl Messineo: Just because our privacy can be violated does not mean we should expect or tolerate such violations.
cato.org: ‘Pre-Search’ Is Coming to U.S. Policing
cato.org: ‘Pre-Search’ Is Coming to U.S. Policing by Jim Harper: News that the city of Baltimore has been under surreptitious, mass-scale camera surveillance will have ramifications across the criminal justice world. When it comes to constitutional criminal procedure, privacy, and … Continue reading
W.D.La.: Postal workers have no REP in containers in postal buildings
Postal worker who left personal stuff in an unlocked locker had no reasonable expectation of privacy in it. Postal workers knew that they were subjected to searches of their belongings and containers on postal service property. United States v. Cluse, … Continue reading
CA7: No REP in IP address because it is broadcast
There is no reasonable expectation of privacy in the IP address one is using because it’s broadcast far and wide. It is a mere business record under the third party doctrine, and Jones doesn’t alter the third party doctrine. United … Continue reading
VI: No REP in a bag on ground outside an apt building
Defendant’s apartment was subjected to a search warrant, and defendant argued that a Crown Royal bag outside on the ground was outside the scope of the warrant and couldn’t be seized. The court applies Dunn and the curtilage analysis to … Continue reading
N.D.Cal.: Conversations outside courthouse were entitled to REP
Surreptitious recordings outside the San Mateo courthouse of persons talking amongst themselves were entitled to a reasonable expectation of privacy because they talked such that others could not overhear them except with planted recording devices. United States v. Giraudo, 2016 … Continue reading
The Recorder: Breyer: Courthouse Bugs Violate Fourth Amendment
The Recorder: Breyer: Courthouse Bugs Violate Fourth Amendment by Ross Todd: SAN FRANCISCO — A federal judge has barred prosecutors from introducing evidence picked up by recording devices planted outside the San Mateo County courthouse without a warrant. In a … Continue reading
E.D.Tex.: No REP in a cell phone call made in back of patrol car caught on dashcam
Defendant’s stop was valid, and so was the ultimate inventory of the car under Bertine. Defendant was in the back of a police car, and he called his grandfather and the audio was picked up on the dashcam video where … Continue reading
OR: Stuff left in a crashed and abandoned stolen truck had no REP
Defendant had no reasonable expectation of privacy in containers he left fleeing from a stolen truck. State v. Stubblefield, 279 Ore. App. 483, 2016 Ore. App. LEXIS 928 (July 20, 2016). The officer smelled burnt marijuana during his stop of … Continue reading
N.D.Cal.: Listening devices in a public place overcame any reasonable expectation of privacy; 1984 was not just a book — it’s here
The FBI planted recording devices outside two courthouses in Northern California to catch conversations on the street between their targets. The devices were planted in a light fixture, a bus stop, and on a parked vehicle. The court finds no … Continue reading
ND: Motel guest’s arrest for crime on premises against employee resulted in eviction and lawful room search
Defendant was arrested at a motel for some unspecified crime against an employee and taken away. Management then evicted him and had the police come and remove his stuff. While inventorying, they found drug paraphernalia. Then they did a dog … Continue reading