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"If it was easy, everybody would be doing it. It isn't, and they don't."
—Me -
"Life is not a matter of holding good cards, but of playing a poor hand well."
–Josh Billings (pseudonym of Henry Wheeler Shaw), Josh Billings on Ice, and Other Things (1868) (erroneously attributed to Robert Louis Stevenson, among others) -
“I am still learning.”
—Domenico Giuntalodi (but misattributed to Michelangelo Buonarroti (common phrase throughout 1500's)). -
"Love work; hate mastery over others; and avoid intimacy with the government."
—Shemaya, in the Thalmud -
"It is a pleasant world we live in, sir, a very pleasant world. There are bad people in it, Mr. Richard, but if there were no bad people, there would be no good lawyers."
—Charles Dickens, “The Old Curiosity Shop ... With a Frontispiece. From a Painting by Geo. Cattermole, Etc.” 255 (1848) -
"A system of law that not only makes certain conduct criminal, but also lays down rules for the conduct of the authorities, often becomes complex in its application to individual cases, and will from time to time produce imperfect results, especially if one's attention is confined to the particular case at bar. Some criminals do go free because of the necessity of keeping government and its servants in their place. That is one of the costs of having and enforcing a Bill of Rights. This country is built on the assumption that the cost is worth paying, and that in the long run we are all both freer and safer if the Constitution is strictly enforced."
—Williams v. Nix, 700 F. 2d 1164, 1173 (8th Cir. 1983) (Richard Sheppard Arnold, J.), rev'd Nix v. Williams, 467 US. 431 (1984). -
"The criminal goes free, if he must, but it is the law that sets him free. Nothing can destroy a government more quickly than its failure to observe its own laws, or worse, its disregard of the charter of its own existence."
—Mapp v. Ohio, 367 U.S. 643, 659 (1961). -
"Any costs the exclusionary rule are costs imposed directly by the Fourth Amendment."
—Yale Kamisar, 86 Mich.L.Rev. 1, 36 n. 151 (1987). -
"There have been powerful hydraulic pressures throughout our history that bear heavily on the Court to water down constitutional guarantees and give the police the upper hand. That hydraulic pressure has probably never been greater than it is today."
— Terry v. Ohio, 392 U.S. 1, 39 (1968) (Douglas, J., dissenting). -
"The great end, for which men entered into society, was to secure their property."
—Entick v. Carrington, 19 How.St.Tr. 1029, 1066, 95 Eng. Rep. 807 (C.P. 1765) -
"It is a fair summary of history to say that the safeguards of liberty have frequently been forged in controversies involving not very nice people. And so, while we are concerned here with a shabby defrauder, we must deal with his case in the context of what are really the great themes expressed by the Fourth Amendment."
—United States v. Rabinowitz, 339 U.S. 56, 69 (1950) (Frankfurter, J., dissenting) -
"The course of true law pertaining to searches and seizures, as enunciated here, has not–to put it mildly–run smooth."
—Chapman v. United States, 365 U.S. 610, 618 (1961) (Frankfurter, J., concurring). -
"A search is a search, even if it happens to disclose nothing but the bottom of a turntable."
—Arizona v. Hicks, 480 U.S. 321, 325 (1987) -
"For the Fourth Amendment protects people, not places. What a person knowingly exposes to the public, even in his own home or office, is not a subject of Fourth Amendment protection. ... But what he seeks to preserve as private, even in an area accessible to the public, may be constitutionally protected."
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“Experience should teach us to be most on guard to protect liberty when the Government’s purposes are beneficent. Men born to freedom are naturally alert to repel invasion of their liberty by evil-minded
rulers. The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well-meaning but without understanding.”
—United States v. Olmstead, 277 U.S. 438, 479 (1925) (Brandeis, J., dissenting)
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“Liberty—the freedom from unwarranted intrusion by government—is as easily lost through insistent nibbles by government officials who seek to do their jobs too well as by those whose purpose it is to oppress; the piranha can be as deadly as the shark.”
—United States v. $124,570, 873 F.2d 1240, 1246 (9th Cir. 1989) -
"You can't always get what you want / But if you try sometimes / You just might find / You get what you need."
—Mick Jagger & Keith Richards, Let it Bleed (album, 1969) -
"In Germany, they first came for the communists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a communist. Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew. Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist. Then they came for
the Catholics and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Catholic. Then they came
for me–and by that time there was nobody left to speak up."
—Martin Niemöller (1945) [he served seven years in a concentration camp] -
“Children grow up thinking the adult world is ordered, rational, fit for purpose. It’s crap. Becoming a man is realising that it’s all rotten. Realising how to celebrate that rottenness, that’s freedom.”
– John le Carré, The Night Manager (1993), line by Richard Roper -
"The point of the Fourth Amendment, which often is not grasped by zealous officers, is not that it denies law enforcement the support of the usual inferences which reasonable men draw from evidence. Its protection consists in requiring that those inferences be drawn by a neutral and detached magistrate instead of being judged by the officer engaged in the often competitive enterprise of ferreting out crime."
—Johnson v. United States, 333 U.S. 10, 13-14 (1948) -
The book was dedicated in the first (1982) and sixth (2025) editions to Justin William Hall (1975-2025). He was three when this project started in 1978.
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Category Archives: Reasonable suspicion
DC: Unprovoked flight when being asked about possession of a gun was RS
Plainclothes officers in the MPD Gun Recovery Unit saw defendant walk in front of their vehicle. On a here hunch, one called out to him: “Officer Katz testified that he then shined his flashlight on appellant, leaned out of his … Continue reading
MS: Denial of privacy interest in shed behind rented mobile home meant no standing there
In a knock-and-talk, defendant denied any interest in a shed behind her mobile home. While the police were outside, she’d delivered a box to her boyfriend there. She consented to a search of the mobile home. That denial denies her … Continue reading
W.D.Pa.: Leaving car in street after being taken away by ambulance after being shot justified impoundment and inventory of the car
Defendant called the police because he was shot in the chest while in his car. An ambulance arrived and took defendant to the hospital. His car was left in the middle of the street. Impoundment of the car and inventory … Continue reading
CA6: Separate warrant not required to isolate def in his own house in bathroom to talk to him
Police executed a search warrant and took defendant to the bathroom so they could talk to him about becoming a CI. The detention in the apartment and then the bathroom was justified by the probable cause for this search warrant … Continue reading
CA9: Officer’s lie to def about basis for stop isn’t a Fourth Amendment violation
Officers had reasonable suspicion for the traffic stop based on wiretaps. The fact the officer deliberately lied to defendant about the basis of the stop doesn’t violate the Fourth Amendment. United States v. Magallon-Lopez, 2016 U.S. App. LEXIS 5891 (9th … Continue reading
N.D.Ga.: Making money but no job was RS for a probation search
Reasonable suspicion for a probation search came from a “trusted” person call that defendant was making money but had no job and he was a past meth dealer. That was enough. Then defendant consented, too. United States v. Danner, 2016 … Continue reading
OH4: PC not required for a traffic stop; it only requires RS
Probable cause is not required to justify a traffic stop; reasonable suspicion is enough. State v. Taylor, 2016-Ohio-1231, 2016 Ohio App. LEXIS 1124 (4th Dist. March 11, 2016). Defendant was taken to the police station, so he was arrested without … Continue reading
W.D.Mo.: No right to return of electronic data where def already has it from gov’t
A motion for return of property under Rule 41(g) is properly denied where the defendant has complete electronic versions of the records. United States v. Womack, 2016 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 39097 (W.D.Mo. March 25, 2016). Defendant was pulled over because … Continue reading
N.D.Ind.: The officers’ use of conversational speech in describing defendant’s driving was not so vague that it did not show RS
The officers’ use of conversational speech in describing defendant’s driving was not so vague that it did not show reasonable suspicion. “While Burnett argues that Officer Fuhrman and Officer Winston failed to articulate facts supporting reasonable suspicion to justify the … Continue reading
IL: 1:30 am U-turn 50′ before safety roadblock was RS
Defendant’s U-turn over railroad tracks 50′ before a “safety roadblock” set up on a highway just across the state line from Iowa was reasonable suspicion. (Time of day was an important factor.) It was not indicative of “going about one’s … Continue reading
TX: Being a ‘known criminal’ on the street at 2 am in a high crime area not reasonable suspicion
The officer “cited the time of day, the area’s known narcotic activity, and his belief, based on what other officers had told him, that Appellant was a ‘known criminal’ as the reasons for detaining Appellant. The court of appeals concluded … Continue reading
N.D.Ga.: No REP in records of company in receivership
The owner of a company put into receivership has no reasonable expectation of privacy in the business records, and the receiver can give them all to the government without violating the Fourth Amendment. United States v. Avery, 2016 U.S. Dist. … Continue reading
CA7: Dog sniff by second officer while first officer wrote ticket didn’t extend stop
The officer with the dog doing the sniff happened while the first officer was writing the ticket, and that made it valid. Even if not, there was reasonable suspicion extending the stop for the dog sniff. United States v. Guidry, … Continue reading
MN: Arrest warrant permitted entry to arrest short term guest known to be in house
When police have probable cause to believe that the subject of a valid arrest warrant is present as a short-term social guest at another person’s residence, police may enter that residence to effectuate the arrest pursuant to the warrant without … Continue reading
AZ: Def’s past drug conviction wasn’t RS to extend stop for a dog sniff
Officers had no reasonable suspicion from defendants’ stop to conduct a dog sniff. The officer asked for consent and was denied. “I know my rights. I don’t have to let you search. I know what my fiancé is going to … Continue reading
KY: Use of drug dog during stop unjustified and suppressed
Defendant was stopped for weaving. Before the stop, however, other officers and this officer had discussed defendant being involved with drugs. That played a part in following defendant, but he did, in fact, weave. After defendant passed field sobriety tests … Continue reading
M.D.La.: “Provoked” flight different than “unprovoked” flight; def could ignore officer and run away where no RS
Officers had no reasonable suspicion to stop defendant in a high crime area, even after he fled from them when they told him to stop. This was “provoked” flight, contrary to Wardlow’s “unprovoked” flight. “When a vehicle approaches someone in … Continue reading
S.D.Ga.: Dog sniff during the normal computer checks are valid
Defendant was stopped for failure to use a turn signal and the dog sniff occurred before the standard computer checks were complete. Therefore, the stop was not extended for the dog sniff. United States v. Broadnax, 2016 U.S. Dist. LEXIS … Continue reading
D.Mont.: Govt had insufficient evidence defendant lived at place searched to enter with arrest warrant
The police had insufficient evidence defendant resided at the place searched to justify entry under an arrest warrant. “The government contends that the following facts, in combination, were sufficient to establish probable cause that Doney lived at 108 Buena Vista: … Continue reading