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—Me -
"Life is not a matter of holding good cards, but of playing a poor hand well."
–Josh Billings (pseudonym of Henry Wheeler Shaw), Josh Billings on Ice, and Other Things (1868) (erroneously attributed to Robert Louis Stevenson, among others) -
“I am still learning.”
—Domenico Giuntalodi (but misattributed to Michelangelo Buonarroti (common phrase throughout 1500's)). -
"Love work; hate mastery over others; and avoid intimacy with the government."
—Shemaya, in the Thalmud -
"It is a pleasant world we live in, sir, a very pleasant world. There are bad people in it, Mr. Richard, but if there were no bad people, there would be no good lawyers."
—Charles Dickens, “The Old Curiosity Shop ... With a Frontispiece. From a Painting by Geo. Cattermole, Etc.” 255 (1848) -
"A system of law that not only makes certain conduct criminal, but also lays down rules for the conduct of the authorities, often becomes complex in its application to individual cases, and will from time to time produce imperfect results, especially if one's attention is confined to the particular case at bar. Some criminals do go free because of the necessity of keeping government and its servants in their place. That is one of the costs of having and enforcing a Bill of Rights. This country is built on the assumption that the cost is worth paying, and that in the long run we are all both freer and safer if the Constitution is strictly enforced."
—Williams v. Nix, 700 F. 2d 1164, 1173 (8th Cir. 1983) (Richard Sheppard Arnold, J.), rev'd Nix v. Williams, 467 US. 431 (1984). -
"The criminal goes free, if he must, but it is the law that sets him free. Nothing can destroy a government more quickly than its failure to observe its own laws, or worse, its disregard of the charter of its own existence."
—Mapp v. Ohio, 367 U.S. 643, 659 (1961). -
"Any costs the exclusionary rule are costs imposed directly by the Fourth Amendment."
—Yale Kamisar, 86 Mich.L.Rev. 1, 36 n. 151 (1987). -
"There have been powerful hydraulic pressures throughout our history that bear heavily on the Court to water down constitutional guarantees and give the police the upper hand. That hydraulic pressure has probably never been greater than it is today."
— Terry v. Ohio, 392 U.S. 1, 39 (1968) (Douglas, J., dissenting). -
"The great end, for which men entered into society, was to secure their property."
—Entick v. Carrington, 19 How.St.Tr. 1029, 1066, 95 Eng. Rep. 807 (C.P. 1765) -
"It is a fair summary of history to say that the safeguards of liberty have frequently been forged in controversies involving not very nice people. And so, while we are concerned here with a shabby defrauder, we must deal with his case in the context of what are really the great themes expressed by the Fourth Amendment."
—United States v. Rabinowitz, 339 U.S. 56, 69 (1950) (Frankfurter, J., dissenting) -
"The course of true law pertaining to searches and seizures, as enunciated here, has not–to put it mildly–run smooth."
—Chapman v. United States, 365 U.S. 610, 618 (1961) (Frankfurter, J., concurring). -
"A search is a search, even if it happens to disclose nothing but the bottom of a turntable."
—Arizona v. Hicks, 480 U.S. 321, 325 (1987) -
"For the Fourth Amendment protects people, not places. What a person knowingly exposes to the public, even in his own home or office, is not a subject of Fourth Amendment protection. ... But what he seeks to preserve as private, even in an area accessible to the public, may be constitutionally protected."
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“Experience should teach us to be most on guard to protect liberty when the Government’s purposes are beneficent. Men born to freedom are naturally alert to repel invasion of their liberty by evil-minded
rulers. The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well-meaning but without understanding.”
—United States v. Olmstead, 277 U.S. 438, 479 (1925) (Brandeis, J., dissenting)
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“Liberty—the freedom from unwarranted intrusion by government—is as easily lost through insistent nibbles by government officials who seek to do their jobs too well as by those whose purpose it is to oppress; the piranha can be as deadly as the shark.”
—United States v. $124,570, 873 F.2d 1240, 1246 (9th Cir. 1989) -
"You can't always get what you want / But if you try sometimes / You just might find / You get what you need."
—Mick Jagger & Keith Richards, Let it Bleed (album, 1969) -
"In Germany, they first came for the communists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a communist. Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew. Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist. Then they came for
the Catholics and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Catholic. Then they came
for me–and by that time there was nobody left to speak up."
—Martin Niemöller (1945) [he served seven years in a concentration camp] -
“Children grow up thinking the adult world is ordered, rational, fit for purpose. It’s crap. Becoming a man is realising that it’s all rotten. Realising how to celebrate that rottenness, that’s freedom.”
– John le Carré, The Night Manager (1993), line by Richard Roper -
"The point of the Fourth Amendment, which often is not grasped by zealous officers, is not that it denies law enforcement the support of the usual inferences which reasonable men draw from evidence. Its protection consists in requiring that those inferences be drawn by a neutral and detached magistrate instead of being judged by the officer engaged in the often competitive enterprise of ferreting out crime."
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The book was dedicated in the first (1982) and sixth (2025) editions to Justin William Hall (1975-2025). He was three when this project started in 1978.
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Category Archives: Reasonable suspicion
D.Utah: Ptfs alleged enough to stay in court against NSA sweeping up all calls in SLC during 2002 Winter Olympics
Plaintiffs plead enough to stay in court. They claimed that the NSA, with the authority of President Bush, intercepted and still stores all communications in the Salt Lake City area during the 2002 Winter Olympics. Amnesty International v. Clapper is … Continue reading
W.D.Ky.: Frisk was without RS, but computer check showed outstanding arrest warrant, so inevitable discovery applies
“In sum, at the time Browning decided to conduct a Terry pat-down of James’ outer clothing, he was faced with a suspect that (1) was present in a high-crime area, (2) was, by his own admission, recently released from prison … Continue reading
NE: Recognizing driver as having suspended DL is RS for stop without computer check
An officer recognizing the driver of a car as somebody with a suspended license is reasonable suspicion for a stop without even checking the computer. State v. Arizola, 295 Neb. 477, 2017 Neb. LEXIS 1 (Jan. 6, 2017). Plaintiff’s claim … Continue reading
W.D.Ky.: Apparent hand-to-hand transaction in high crime area is RS; officers don’t have to actually see the drugs
Officers don’t have to actually see drugs pass in an apparent hand-to-hand transaction in a high crime area to have reasonable suspicion. Reasonable suspicion isn’t a certainty. United States v. Slaughter, 2017 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 569 (W.D.Ky. Jan. 4, 2017):
M.D.Ala.: Rodriguez is not merely a durational test; RS allows continuing the stop
Rodriguez is not merely a durational test. Here, reasonable suspicion developed during the stop that justified the detention, something absent in Rodriguez. The video of the defendant’s stop doesn’t support his position, and it doesn’t undermine the government’s. It does … Continue reading
E.D.Mo.: An anonymous tip included LPN of vehicle; when officers attempted to stop it, occupants shot at them; there was RS
An officer attempted to pull over a car based on an anonymous 911 tip that people who were in a crashed car got into the suspect vehicle and the LPN was given. The car refused to stop, a high speed … Continue reading
E.D.Cal.: Def’s complete lack of knowledge of anything of vehicle was RS of drug trafficking
“Here, Officer Pratt had independent reasonable suspicion for prolonging the traffic stop. He noted that the fact that the car was registered to one person and insured to another, neither of whom were the defendant, was a prominent indicator of … Continue reading
OH9: Highly erratic driving with a near head-on collision and “glassy, bloodshot eyes” alone was RS for FST even without smell of alcohol
The video of defendant’s driving shows that he drove entirely into another lane and nearly had an accident with another vehicle. When stopped, he was cooperative, didn’t smell of alcohol, and denied drinking. He did, however, have “glassy, bloodshot eyes, … Continue reading
TX DWIs: RS for cont’d detention to get certified officer there; no justification shown for failure to get a SW for draw
There was reasonable suspicion of DWI for defendant’s detention for an additional 21 minutes to get an officer there certified to conduct an HGN test. The delay for was legitimate law enforcement and investigative purposes. Cagle v. State, 2016 Tex. … Continue reading
N.D.Iowa: When paper tag shows to be current, the officer can still talk to the driver within the “mission” of the stop (Updated: R&R rejected)
Defendant’s stop was objectively justified for the paper tag in the back window that couldn’t be read. The fact the officer may have a subjective pretext doesn’t make the stop objectively unreasonable. Here, the pretext was that the car was … Continue reading
W.D.N.Y.: Def’s refusal to show his hands wasn’t a seizure when he didn’t comply with it
Direction to defendant to show hands was not responded to, so there was no submission to authority and thus no seizure. United States v. Jones, 2016 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 171988 (W.D.N.Y. Dec. 13, 2016), rejecting, 2016 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 108477 … Continue reading
NC: Surrounding house for a knock-and-talk didn’t make the knock-and-talk unreasonable
Defendant had a running generator connected to his house and mold and condensation on the windows. A CI had said that defendant had a grow operation. Officers came to the house and confirmed the generator and windows from the front. … Continue reading
FL4: Search of student’s purse with RS that turned up nothing was dissipation of the RS
Based on a report, the school security officer had reasonable suspicion under T.L.O. that the student had a Taser-like device on her person. He searched her purse and didn’t find one, so the reasonable suspicion thus dissipated. A second search … Continue reading
CA1: Arrest of removable alien was without RS, but because no flagrant violation of 4A, no suppression
Respondent was ordered removed from the country after ICE agents encountered him at work. They thought he was somebody else, and he was handcuffed and questioned. It became apparent that he wasn’t the man they were looking for, but he … Continue reading
LA2: Even though LA doesn’t follow SCOTUS standing rules, def still had to show a privacy interest, and he didn’t have one in his murder victim’s cell phone
Defendant couldn’t challenge the search of his murder victim’s cell phone. While Louisiana doesn’t follow SCOTUS cases on standing, no privacy right of defendant was involved in her phone found at her feet when the police arrived at the crime … Continue reading
MI: Consent to remove shoe didn’t include consent to take apart a lighter that fell out
Defendant’s consent was to remove his shoe. It did not include taking apart the lighter that fell out. Remanded to suppress. May v. State, 2016 Miss. App. LEXIS 810 (Dec. 13, 2016). Officers received a BOLO on a particular car … Continue reading
Three on reasonable suspicion
Flight led to reasonable suspicion. When cornered, defendant wouldn’t raise his hands. The frisk was valid. United States v. Strayhorn, 2016 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 169219 (E.D.Mo. Nov. 14, 2016).* A valid traffic stop led to smelling marijuana which led to … Continue reading
OH5: Fire inspector’s violation of city agreement to give notice before inspections warranted his firing
Jeffries complained that he was subjected to arbitrary and invasive fire inspections, and the city agreed to give him prior notice. Lanzer, however, violated that agreement and was fired by the city. “However, as stated above, the City of Louisville … Continue reading