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- CA6: CI’s lie to get into def’s house to video him making a drug deal with the CI didn’t violate 4A
- TN: Def lived in a van left wide open in a public area, but it didn’t belong to him, so no REP as to interior
- VI: Despite ubiquity of cell phones, nexus has to be shown to alleged crime
- N.D.Ga.: PIT maneuver here was not excessive force
- LA4: Acting like carrying a gun and wearing a ski mask in New Orleans in June was RS
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by John Wesley Hall
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"If it was easy, everybody would be doing it. It isn't, and they don't."
—Me -
"Life is not a matter of holding good cards, but of playing a poor hand well."
–Josh Billings (pseudonym of Henry Wheeler Shaw), Josh Billings on Ice, and Other Things (1868) (erroneously attributed to Robert Louis Stevenson, among others) -
“I am still learning.”
—Domenico Giuntalodi (but misattributed to Michelangelo Buonarroti (common phrase throughout 1500's)). -
"Love work; hate mastery over others; and avoid intimacy with the government."
—Shemaya, in the Thalmud -
"It is a pleasant world we live in, sir, a very pleasant world. There are bad people in it, Mr. Richard, but if there were no bad people, there would be no good lawyers."
—Charles Dickens, “The Old Curiosity Shop ... With a Frontispiece. From a Painting by Geo. Cattermole, Etc.” 255 (1848) -
"A system of law that not only makes certain conduct criminal, but also lays down rules for the conduct of the authorities, often becomes complex in its application to individual cases, and will from time to time produce imperfect results, especially if one's attention is confined to the particular case at bar. Some criminals do go free because of the necessity of keeping government and its servants in their place. That is one of the costs of having and enforcing a Bill of Rights. This country is built on the assumption that the cost is worth paying, and that in the long run we are all both freer and safer if the Constitution is strictly enforced."
—Williams v. Nix, 700 F. 2d 1164, 1173 (8th Cir. 1983) (Richard Sheppard Arnold, J.), rev'd Nix v. Williams, 467 US. 431 (1984). -
"The criminal goes free, if he must, but it is the law that sets him free. Nothing can destroy a government more quickly than its failure to observe its own laws, or worse, its disregard of the charter of its own existence."
—Mapp v. Ohio, 367 U.S. 643, 659 (1961). -
"Any costs the exclusionary rule are costs imposed directly by the Fourth Amendment."
—Yale Kamisar, 86 Mich.L.Rev. 1, 36 n. 151 (1987). -
"There have been powerful hydraulic pressures throughout our history that bear heavily on the Court to water down constitutional guarantees and give the police the upper hand. That hydraulic pressure has probably never been greater than it is today."
— Terry v. Ohio, 392 U.S. 1, 39 (1968) (Douglas, J., dissenting). -
"The great end, for which men entered into society, was to secure their property."
—Entick v. Carrington, 19 How.St.Tr. 1029, 1066, 95 Eng. Rep. 807 (C.P. 1765) -
"It is a fair summary of history to say that the safeguards of liberty have frequently been forged in controversies involving not very nice people. And so, while we are concerned here with a shabby defrauder, we must deal with his case in the context of what are really the great themes expressed by the Fourth Amendment."
—United States v. Rabinowitz, 339 U.S. 56, 69 (1950) (Frankfurter, J., dissenting) -
"The course of true law pertaining to searches and seizures, as enunciated here, has not–to put it mildly–run smooth."
—Chapman v. United States, 365 U.S. 610, 618 (1961) (Frankfurter, J., concurring). -
"A search is a search, even if it happens to disclose nothing but the bottom of a turntable."
—Arizona v. Hicks, 480 U.S. 321, 325 (1987) -
"For the Fourth Amendment protects people, not places. What a person knowingly exposes to the public, even in his own home or office, is not a subject of Fourth Amendment protection. ... But what he seeks to preserve as private, even in an area accessible to the public, may be constitutionally protected."
—Katz v. United States, 389 U.S. 347, 351 (1967) -
“Experience should teach us to be most on guard to protect liberty when the Government’s purposes are beneficent. Men born to freedom are naturally alert to repel invasion of their liberty by evil-minded
rulers. The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well-meaning but without understanding.”
—United States v. Olmstead, 277 U.S. 438, 479 (1925) (Brandeis, J., dissenting)
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“Liberty—the freedom from unwarranted intrusion by government—is as easily lost through insistent nibbles by government officials who seek to do their jobs too well as by those whose purpose it is to oppress; the piranha can be as deadly as the shark.”
—United States v. $124,570, 873 F.2d 1240, 1246 (9th Cir. 1989) -
"You can't always get what you want / But if you try sometimes / You just might find / You get what you need."
—Mick Jagger & Keith Richards, Let it Bleed (album, 1969) -
"In Germany, they first came for the communists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a communist. Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew. Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist. Then they came for
the Catholics and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Catholic. Then they came
for me–and by that time there was nobody left to speak up."
—Martin Niemöller (1945) [he served seven years in a concentration camp] -
“Children grow up thinking the adult world is ordered, rational, fit for purpose. It’s crap. Becoming a man is realising that it’s all rotten. Realising how to celebrate that rottenness, that’s freedom.”
– John le Carré, The Night Manager (1993), line by Richard Roper -
"The point of the Fourth Amendment, which often is not grasped by zealous officers, is not that it denies law enforcement the support of the usual inferences which reasonable men draw from evidence. Its protection consists in requiring that those inferences be drawn by a neutral and detached magistrate instead of being judged by the officer engaged in the often competitive enterprise of ferreting out crime."
—Johnson v. United States, 333 U.S. 10, 13-14 (1948) -
The book was dedicated in the first (1982) and sixth (2025) editions to Justin William Hall (1975-2025). He was three when this project started in 1978.
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Category Archives: Reasonable expectation of privacy
CA1: Fictitious name of trade assn in mail fraud scam left def with no REP in mail
Defendant created a fictitious trade association and sent out bills, getting many checks back from thousands he mailed out. He had no reasonable expectation of privacy in the envelopes that he had not yet received because of the fictitious names. … Continue reading
CADC: When the govt learns heroin dealers’ pattern for pick up and delivery, further acts matching the pattern are probable cause
Defendants were known heroin dealers, and they followed a pattern in travel. On the trip that resulted in their arrest, GPS data and cell site location information put them together following the same pattern, and that was reasonable suspicion. United … Continue reading
W.D.N.Y.: No REP in bloody tissue left in police dept bathroom
Defendant had no reasonable expectation of privacy in a bloody tissue left in a men’s bathroom at the Buffalo police station. United States v. Green, 2016 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 87388 (W.D.N.Y. July 6, 2016). Defendants’ vehicle was stopped as it … Continue reading
D.S.D.: No REP on couch in living room of another where def slept; owner could consent
Defendant slept on the couch of another, and the other had to walk by it to his own bedroom. He could consent to the search of the couch even though it was defendant’s bed. United States v. Zastrow, 2016 U.S. … Continue reading
E.D.La.: Shipping a package under an alias means no REP in it to challenge search
Defendant shipped a package from a UPS store in San Bernardino CA to Houma LA. His name wasn’t on the package as the sender or the recipient, so he didn’t have standing to challenge the search of the package. United … Continue reading
HI: Four flyovers of def’s house violated curtilage and REP under state constitution
Four police flyovers of defendant’s house, one at 420′, was not a search under the Fourth Amendment, but it was unreasonable under the Hawai’i Constitution. 20-25 marijuana plants were seen in the flyover. Driving by the residence, however, no plants … Continue reading
D.S.D.: Trash bags were about as close to house as street; no REP
Defendant has no reasonable expectation of privacy in his trash bags. There were close to house, but they were as close to the street, and they were ready for collection. United States v. Thompson, 2016 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 73035 (D.S.D. … Continue reading
The Daily Beast: DEA Wants Inside Your Medical Records to Fight the War on Drugs
The Daily Beast: DEA Wants Inside Your Medical Records to Fight the War on Drugs by Christopher Moraff: The feds are fighting to look at millions of private files without a warrant, including those of two transgender men who are … Continue reading
CA8: No REP in magnetic strip on back of credit cards; it is intended to be read when used
There is no reasonable expectation of privacy in the magnetic strip on the back of a credit card, here many allegedly fraudulent cards, because the whole idea is that the magnetic strip is read every time the card is used. … Continue reading
CO: Residents of a “residential community corrections facility” are in DOC custody and subject to prison searches
“Triplett was an offender residing in the Mesa County residential community corrections facility.” He was taking a shower, and an officer of the facility was walking around for a cleanliness inspection. He touched defendant’s sock and felt a vial that … Continue reading
W.D.Tex.: Criminal defense lawyers state 4A claim against jail phone co. for recording attorney-client calls
The plaintiff lawyers group, an association of criminal defense lawyers, have standing in their own right and individually to complain of recording of attorney-client telephone calls from the Travis County Jail. They also state a claim under the Fourth Amendment … Continue reading
W.D.N.C.: Wired CI invaded no REP in transmitting audio and video to waiting officers
Defendants admitted a wired CI into a home for a drug deal. The CI transmitted real time to officers outside audio and video of the drugs and guns. No reasonable expectation of privacy was involved. He could see exactly what … Continue reading
CA7 gives an interesting historical and current summary of “the Supreme Court[‘s] … reviv[al of] a ‘property-based approach to identify unconstitutional searches.”
Defendant had no reasonable expectation of privacy in the basement area of an apartment building. Neither was it curtilage. The court includes an interesting historical and current summary of “the Supreme Court[‘s] … reviv[al of] a ‘property-based approach to identify … Continue reading
Inc.com: Why Your Fingerprint Isn’t Protected by the Constitution
Inc.com: Why Your Fingerprint Isn’t Protected by the Constitution by Will Kakowicz: You are protected against revealing passwords under the Fifth Amendment’s right against self-incrimination, but your biometrics are not.
OH4: No reasonable expectation from a snitch coming into one’s home and recording a drug sale
There is no reasonable expectation from a snitch coming into one’s home and recording a drug sale. By letting the snitch in, defendant assumed the risk. State v. Taylor, 2016-Ohio-2781, 2016 Ohio App. LEXIS 1644 (4th Dist. April 27, 2016). … Continue reading
The Intercept: Seattle’s sanitation workers can no longer pry through trash without a warrant
The Intercept: Seattle’s sanitation workers can no longer pry through trash without a warrant by Cyrus Farivar: A Washington county judge has ruled that the city of Seattle’s warrantless searches of garbage violated the state’s constitution. In her 14-page order, … Continue reading
N.D.Ga.: No REP in records of company in receivership
The owner of a company put into receivership has no reasonable expectation of privacy in the business records, and the receiver can give them all to the government without violating the Fourth Amendment. United States v. Avery, 2016 U.S. Dist. … Continue reading
CA2: RCMP was merely giving information to CBP and not on a joint venture
Defendant was prosecuted for alien smuggling in Northern New York. CBP received information from the RCMP about a vehicle stopped in a rural area near the border, and Border Patrol picked up defendant. “Put simply, the interaction between the U.S. … Continue reading
S.D.Fla.: “Strawman” car rental resulted in no reasonable expectation of privacy
Defendant did not have a reasonable expectation of privacy in a rental car that was rented by another, defendant had a suspended license, it was, for all appearance, a strawman rental, and it was overdue. This was not a case … Continue reading
W.D.La.: No reasonable expectation of privacy in a stolen car
“Barnes, as the possessor of a stolen vehicle, had no legitimate expectation of privacy in the vehicle. His challenge to the search fails on this ground alone. [¶] In addition, it should be noted that, even if Barnes did have … Continue reading