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"Life is not a matter of holding good cards, but of playing a poor hand well."
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"Love work; hate mastery over others; and avoid intimacy with the government."
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"It is a pleasant world we live in, sir, a very pleasant world. There are bad people in it, Mr. Richard, but if there were no bad people, there would be no good lawyers."
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"A system of law that not only makes certain conduct criminal, but also lays down rules for the conduct of the authorities, often becomes complex in its application to individual cases, and will from time to time produce imperfect results, especially if one's attention is confined to the particular case at bar. Some criminals do go free because of the necessity of keeping government and its servants in their place. That is one of the costs of having and enforcing a Bill of Rights. This country is built on the assumption that the cost is worth paying, and that in the long run we are all both freer and safer if the Constitution is strictly enforced."
—Williams v. Nix, 700 F. 2d 1164, 1173 (8th Cir. 1983) (Richard Sheppard Arnold, J.), rev'd Nix v. Williams, 467 US. 431 (1984). -
"The criminal goes free, if he must, but it is the law that sets him free. Nothing can destroy a government more quickly than its failure to observe its own laws, or worse, its disregard of the charter of its own existence."
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"Any costs the exclusionary rule are costs imposed directly by the Fourth Amendment."
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"There have been powerful hydraulic pressures throughout our history that bear heavily on the Court to water down constitutional guarantees and give the police the upper hand. That hydraulic pressure has probably never been greater than it is today."
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"The great end, for which men entered into society, was to secure their property."
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"It is a fair summary of history to say that the safeguards of liberty have frequently been forged in controversies involving not very nice people. And so, while we are concerned here with a shabby defrauder, we must deal with his case in the context of what are really the great themes expressed by the Fourth Amendment."
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"The course of true law pertaining to searches and seizures, as enunciated here, has not–to put it mildly–run smooth."
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"A search is a search, even if it happens to disclose nothing but the bottom of a turntable."
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"For the Fourth Amendment protects people, not places. What a person knowingly exposes to the public, even in his own home or office, is not a subject of Fourth Amendment protection. ... But what he seeks to preserve as private, even in an area accessible to the public, may be constitutionally protected."
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intrusion by government—is as easily lost through insistent nibbles by
government officials who seek to do their jobs too well as by those whose purpose
it is to oppress; the piranha can be as deadly as the shark.”
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"In Germany, they first came for the communists, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a communist. Then they came for the Jews, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist. Then they came for the Catholics and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Catholic. Then they came for me–and by that time there was nobody left to speak up."
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“Children grow up thinking the adult world is ordered, rational, fit for purpose. It’s crap. Becoming a man is realising that it’s all rotten. Realising how to celebrate that rottenness, that’s freedom.”
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"The point of the Fourth Amendment, which often is not grasped by zealous officers, is not that it denies law enforcement the support of the usual inferences which reasonable men draw from evidence. Its protection consists in requiring that those inferences be drawn by a neutral and detached magistrate instead of being judged by the officer engaged in the often competitive enterprise of ferreting out crime."
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Category Archives: Attenuation
CO: Because CO has legalized recreational MJ, use of a drug dog requires PC because a dog sniff uncovers lawful activity
Because Colorado has legalized possession of small amounts of marijuana, admission of possession of it in a car doesn’t permit a drug dog to sniff the car without probable cause to believe there is an illegal amount in the car. … Continue reading
E.D.Ky.: Moving car for more intense automobile exception search was reasonable
A search under the automobile exception properly includes dismantling the car stereo if the officers think there is something potentially there. It was also reasonable to move the car to a different location for a more intense search. United States … Continue reading
D.N.J.: Presentation of fake driver’s license to get car from impound after alleged unlawful seizure was new crime and attenuated
Defendant’s presentation of a fake driver’s licenses to recover his car would not be suppressed. The argument that it is connected to defendant’s alleged unlawful seizure of the car fails because it was attenuated. United States v. Minaya, 2019 U.S. … Continue reading
D.Mont.: After removing tainted information from the SW affidavit, it’s the job of reviewing court to independently evaluate the PC
When removing tainted evidence from the affidavit for the search warrant and retesting it, the issuing judge is not to be a witness. It’s the court’s duty to reevaluate the application for the search warrant on its own. United States … Continue reading
CA9: While there was no basis for def’s stop, his and his passenger’s flight after stopping was an intervening circumstance
The court agrees that there was no basis for defendant’s traffic stop, but, after defendant stopped the car, his passenger bailed out of the car and ran, and then defendant took off and went another two miles before he was … Continue reading
CA8: Arguable probable cause for arrest gives QI
“The totality of the circumstances at the time of the arrest, as described above, were sufficient for Svajgl to believe that Nader had committed or was committing the offense of possessing child pornography.” Arguable probable cause is all that’s required … Continue reading
CA2: Even if SW was unlawful, def’s statement was attenuated
Even if the search warrant was unlawful for failure to specify the apartment to be searched, defendant’s statement was an intervening independent act of free will in disclosing the location of a CD of child pornography. The exclusionary rule would … Continue reading
WA: State attenuation is more narrow than the 4A’s, and here it wasn’t satisfied
The attenuation doctrine applies under the Washington Constitution, but it is more narrowly applied than the Fourth Amendment’s. Here is it not satisfied, and there are no intervening circumstances. State v. Mayfield, 2019 Wash. LEXIS 70 (Feb. 7, 2019):
S.D.N.Y.: Protective sweep of small apt loft was valid
A protective sweep of even a small apartment’s loft and closet is valid. Plain view sustained. United States v. Green, 2018 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 206238 (S.D. N.Y. Dec. 6, 2018).* The search issue is not dispositive of the case because … Continue reading
CA4: Unlawfully placing GPS on def’s car was flagrant 4A violation; no attenuation found
The government unlawfully placed a GPS device on defendant’s car and two days later stopped him. It argued in the district court a lack of standing, which prevailed there, and then conceded they were wrong on appeal. The constitutional violation … Continue reading
IN recognizes attenuation doctrine under state constitution’s exclusionary rule.
Indiana recognizes attenuation doctrine under state constitution’s exclusionary rule. Wright v. State, 2018 Ind. LEXIS 565 (Oct. 4, 2018):
S.D.Cal.: Cell phone was validly searched under border search exception; obtaining passcode was likely unlawful, but government isn’t going to use it
Defendant was arrested at Calexico for importing meth. While in the holding cell, she gave up the password for the cell phone. The government isn’t going to use her revealing the password as evidence, but it wants to use the … Continue reading
MD: Stop-and-frisk might have been invalid, but def fled and that made it valid
Defendant was arguably subjected to an invalid stop and frisk, but his flight was an intervening circumstance supporting finding the gun. Thornton v. State, 2018 Md. App. LEXIS 716 (July 25, 2018). “The testimony at the suppression hearing demonstrated that … Continue reading
S.D.Ga.: CI information was a little stale, but the officer’s corroroboration was with current information and that overcame staleness
The CI’s information was a little dated and potentially stale, but it was corroborated by current information and that was probable cause. United States v. Mobley, 2018 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 101640 (S.D. Ga. June 18, 2018). “In this case, by … Continue reading
E.D.Cal.: Prison inmate states 4A claim for digital rectal search in front of other inmates
Plaintiff prison inmate states a claim for a digital search in front of other inmates. Fuentes v. Cal. Dep’t of Corr., 2018 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 52132 (E.D. Cal. Mar. 29, 2018). The prison strip search here had a legitimate penological … Continue reading
CA5: Attenuation of statement from arrest found: “Suppression of inculpatory evidence is an extraordinary remedy.”
The Fifth Circuit finds defendant’s statement is attenuated from his arrest. The time factor favors defendant but the rest favors the government. “Finally, the purpose and flagrancy factor favors the Government with respect to both the stop and subsequent search. … Continue reading
E.D.N.C.: Mere disagreement with state court conclusion on 4A claim doesn’t overcome Stone v. Powell bar
Defendant litigated his search in state court and lost in the trial court and on appeal. He filed a habeas petition. “Petitioner’s disagreement with the ultimate disposition of his Fourth Amendment claim does not indicate he was not given a … Continue reading
CA10: Consent was attenuated from alleged unlawful stop despite def’s real urgency to go pee
The government proved that defendant’s consent was attentuated from the alleged unlawful detention because the paperwork during the stop was given back. The district court considered the fact defendant complained she had to pee really bad. United States v. Ramos, … Continue reading
NM: Assuming stop was unconstitutional, def’s giving a false name purged the taint
Surveying the law nationwide, the court concludes that defendant’s giving a false name purged the taint of his unreasonable stop under both the Fourth Amendment and the state constitution. The court declines the invitation to distinguish between violent and non-violent … Continue reading
IN: FBI’s search was used in state court; since state doesn’t recognize attenuation, the uncontested suppression of the search also suppresses def’s statements
The FBI’s search of defendant’s computers was governed by the Indiana Constitution in state court, and the search was unlawful under that. Since Indiana doesn’t recognize the attenuation doctrine, defendant’s statements are suppressed as well. Wright v. State, 2018 Ind. … Continue reading