{"id":50706,"date":"2021-12-10T11:18:00","date_gmt":"2021-12-10T16:18:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/fourthamendment.com\/?p=50706"},"modified":"2021-12-11T05:19:32","modified_gmt":"2021-12-11T10:19:32","slug":"la1-subjective-beliefs-of-officer-irrelevant-when-pc-exists","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/fourthamendment.com\/?p=50706","title":{"rendered":"LA1: Subjective beliefs of officer irrelevant when PC exists"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>The trial court is reversed. There was probable cause for defendant\u2019s stop. \u201cUnder the law, \u2018the subjective beliefs or expectations of the detaining officer\u2019 are irrelevant.\u201d <a href=\"https:\/\/www.la-fcca.org\/opiniongrid\/opinionpdf\/2021%20KW%201134%20Decision%20Writ.pdf\">State v. Lee<\/a>, 2021 La. App. LEXIS 1840 (La. App. 1 Cir. Dec. 6, 2021).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>There was probable cause for seizure and search of defendant\u2019s vehicle, and then a search warrant was obtained because it was locked. \u201cFor Fourth Amendment purposes, once that probable cause exists there is \u2018no difference\u2019 between that warrantless vehicle search and what the officers did here\u2014\u2018seizing and holding a car before presenting the probable cause issue to a magistrate.\u2019 See Chambers v. Maroney, 399 U.S. 42, 51-52 (1970).\u201d <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ca5.uscourts.gov\/opinions\/unpub\/20\/20-10759.0.pdf\">United States v. Penny<\/a>, 2021 U.S. App. LEXIS 36003 (5th Cir. Dec. 7, 2021).*<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The trial court is reversed. There was probable cause for defendant\u2019s stop. \u201cUnder the law, \u2018the subjective beliefs or expectations of the detaining officer\u2019 are irrelevant.\u201d State v. Lee, 2021 La. App. LEXIS 1840 (La. App. 1 Cir. Dec. 6, &hellip; <a class=\"more-link\" href=\"https:\/\/fourthamendment.com\/?p=50706\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[36,63],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-50706","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-automobile-exception","category-reasonableness"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/fourthamendment.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/50706","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/fourthamendment.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/fourthamendment.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/fourthamendment.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/fourthamendment.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=50706"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/fourthamendment.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/50706\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":50707,"href":"https:\/\/fourthamendment.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/50706\/revisions\/50707"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/fourthamendment.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=50706"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/fourthamendment.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=50706"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/fourthamendment.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=50706"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}