{"id":48684,"date":"2021-06-09T06:38:21","date_gmt":"2021-06-09T11:38:21","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/fourthamendment.com\/?p=48684"},"modified":"2021-06-09T06:38:21","modified_gmt":"2021-06-09T11:38:21","slug":"ca2-no-4a-extraterritorial-jurisdiction-over-switzerland-enforcing-its-own-law-against-americans-in-switzerland","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/fourthamendment.com\/?p=48684","title":{"rendered":"CA2: No 4A extraterritorial jurisdiction over Switzerland enforcing its own law against Americans in Switzerland"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>An extraterritorial seizure of art work and antiquities in Switzerland of American citizens doesn\u2019t involve the Fourth Amendment. International law has not adopted the Fourth Amendment\u2019s probable cause standard. There is no justification shown for applying the Fourth Amendment to Switzerland\u2019s activities there or meddling in their investigation. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cahaliteurts.gov\/decisions\/isysquery\/93a4c245-e30d-4ece-b36e-439ef5127b28\/2\/doc\/19-3457_19-3481_opn.pdf#xml=https:\/\/www.ca2.uscourts.gov\/decisions\/isysquery\/93a4c245-e30d-4ece-b36e-439ef5127b28\/2\/hilite\/\">Beierwaltes v. L&#8217;Office Federale de la Culture de la Confederation Suisse (Fed. Office of Culture of the Swiss Confederation)<\/a>, 2021 U.S. App. LEXIS 16942 (2d Cir. June 8, 2021).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Filing a CSLI motion pre-Carpenter was a futile act for defense counsel, so there was no ineffectiveness. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.illinoiscourts.gov\/resources\/e437df6d-3df8-4f58-89d2-95ea700ce352\/file\">People v. Cerda<\/a>, 2021 IL App (1st) 171433, 2021 Ill. App. LEXIS 282 (June 3, 2021).*<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Just because defendant\u2019s alleged drug operation was located in his apartment, that didn\u2019t mean the officers did not also have probable cause as to his car. They did. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.mass.gov\/files\/documents\/2021\/06\/08\/c12975.pdf\">Commonwealth v. Ortiz<\/a>, 2021 Mass. LEXIS 345 (June 8, 2021).*<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>An extraterritorial seizure of art work and antiquities in Switzerland of American citizens doesn\u2019t involve the Fourth Amendment. International law has not adopted the Fourth Amendment\u2019s probable cause standard. There is no justification shown for applying the Fourth Amendment to &hellip; <a class=\"more-link\" href=\"https:\/\/fourthamendment.com\/?p=48684\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[97,23,38],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-48684","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-foreign-searches","category-ineffective-assistance","category-nexus"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/fourthamendment.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/48684","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/fourthamendment.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/fourthamendment.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/fourthamendment.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/fourthamendment.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=48684"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/fourthamendment.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/48684\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":48685,"href":"https:\/\/fourthamendment.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/48684\/revisions\/48685"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/fourthamendment.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=48684"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/fourthamendment.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=48684"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/fourthamendment.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=48684"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}