{"id":35482,"date":"2018-11-17T09:11:23","date_gmt":"2018-11-17T14:11:23","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/fourthamendment.com\/?p=35482"},"modified":"2018-11-19T08:56:28","modified_gmt":"2018-11-19T13:56:28","slug":"qi-for-probation-searches","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/fourthamendment.com\/?p=35482","title":{"rendered":"QI for probation searches"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>People For the American Way: <a href=\"http:\/\/www.pfaw.org\/blog-posts\/confirmed-judges-confirmed-fears-two-trump-circuit-judges-rule-that-there-is-no-remedy-for-a-violation-of-a-homeowners-privacy-rights\/\">Confirmed Judges, Confirmed Fears: Two Trump Circuit Judges Rule that There is No Remedy for a Violation of a Homeowner\u2019s Privacy Rights<\/a> by Elliot Mincberg discussing this case: <a href=\"http:\/\/fourthamendment.com\/?p=35153\">CA6: Officer spent 90 minutes at plaintiff\u2019s house on the curtilage trying to get him to come out for a probation breath test; that violated 4A but officer gets QI<\/a> (posted 10\/17).<\/p>\n<p>The author&#8217;s point is better addressed maybe to SCOTUS and not the courts of appeals. If, however, they were to more readily find something &#8220;clearly established&#8221; instead of always trying to dodge the issue, citizens would prevail more often. SCOTUS in the last 15 years never decided a &#8220;not clearly established&#8221; case it didn&#8217;t like.<\/p>\n<p>Also, this is a product of probation searches. In my experience, LEOs and POs put no stock in any privacy rights of probationers and think all bets are off. To me, that&#8217;s the real problem. If you&#8217;re not on probation, you might get a fairer shake, but on probation: not at all because you are fair game for whatever they want to do with your property and person. I&#8217;ve had dozens of probation search cases and that&#8217;s the pattern I&#8217;m seeing. At the probation or parole revo hearing: &#8220;A. I can search all his personal property. That&#8217;s what his probation\/parole conditions say. Q. That&#8217;s not what our statute says.&#8221; And it goes downhill from there.<\/p>\n<p>Another consideration: LEOs are better trained than POs. That&#8217;s why they&#8217;re a bit more careful. But they want to search, too.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>People For the American Way: Confirmed Judges, Confirmed Fears: Two Trump Circuit Judges Rule that There is No Remedy for a Violation of a Homeowner\u2019s Privacy Rights by Elliot Mincberg discussing this case: CA6: Officer spent 90 minutes at plaintiff\u2019s &hellip; <a class=\"more-link\" href=\"https:\/\/fourthamendment.com\/?p=35482\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[58,40],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-35482","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-probationparole-search","category-qualified-immunity"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/fourthamendment.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/35482","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/fourthamendment.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/fourthamendment.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/fourthamendment.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/fourthamendment.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=35482"}],"version-history":[{"count":6,"href":"https:\/\/fourthamendment.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/35482\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":35496,"href":"https:\/\/fourthamendment.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/35482\/revisions\/35496"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/fourthamendment.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=35482"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/fourthamendment.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=35482"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/fourthamendment.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=35482"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}