{"id":8235,"date":"2013-01-16T11:19:47","date_gmt":"2013-01-16T10:48:48","guid":{"rendered":""},"modified":"-0001-11-30T00:00:00","modified_gmt":"2013-01-16T10:48:48","slug":"en-US","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/fourthamendment.com\/?p=8235","title":{"rendered":"Thoughts on firearm surrender under NYS\u2019s Secure Ammunition and Firearms Enforcement Act under the Fourth Amendment"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Looking at news stories last night, I had some questions about the mechanics of firearm surrender under NYS\u2019s <a href=\"http:\/\/codes.lp.findlaw.com\/nycode\/PEN\/THREE\/P\/265\/265.20\">Secure Ammunition and Firearms Enforcement Act<\/a> signed into law yesterday. I found that New York law already is replete with provisions for surrender of firearms or licenses on the occurrence of particular events. The Act uses &#8220;surrender&#8221; 42 times. The first, for example:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u00a7 2-a.  <em>Firearm, rifle or shotgun surrender order.<\/em> Upon entry of a verdict of not responsible by reason of mental disease or  defect, or upon  the  acceptance  of  a plea of not responsible by reason of mental disease or defect, or upon a finding that the defendant is an incapacitated  person  pursuant to article seven hundred thirty of this chapter, the court shall revoke the defendant&#8217;s firearm license, if any, inquire of  the defendant as to the existence and location of any firearm, rifle or shotgun owned or possessed by such defendant and direct the surrender of such firearm, rifle or shotgun pursuant to subparagraph (f) of  paragraph  one  of  subdivision  a  of section <a href=\"http:\/\/codes.lp.findlaw.com\/nycode\/PEN\/THREE\/P\/265\/265.20\">265.20<\/a> and subdivision six of section <a href=\"http:\/\/codes.lp.findlaw.com\/nycode\/PEN\/FOUR\/W\/400\/400.05\">400.05 of the penal law<\/a>.\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>There are several others, such as for conviction of a crime, or believed to be mentally impaired, with a psychotherapist reporting privilege, all protected by judicial review. <\/p>\n<p>What if the owner of a firearm refuses to give it up when ordered to by a court? A search warrant issues. <a href=\"http:\/\/scholar.google.com\/scholar_case?case=6311653865602348858&amp;q=36+A.D.3d+1007&amp;hl=en&amp;as_sdt=2,4\">People v. Degiorgio<\/a>, 36 A.D.3d 1007, 827 N.Y.S.2d 342, 343 (3d Dept. 2007). Because it is a compelled act of production, however, it can&#8217;t be used against the gun owner under the Fifth Amendment. <a href=\"http:\/\/scholar.google.com\/scholar_case?case=12821396912051117691&amp;q=8+N.Y.3d+389&amp;hl=en&amp;as_sdt=2,4\">People v. Havrish<\/a>, 8 N.Y.3d 389, 834 N.Y.S.2d 681, 866 N.E.2d 1009 (2007). As for a search warrant, it could be viewed as an administrative warrant, but it is still issued by a judicial officer and subject to review for sufficiency.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>b2evALnk.b2WPAutP <a class=\"more-link\" href=\"http:\/\/fourthamendment.com\/?p=8235\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"pingsdone","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-8235","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/fourthamendment.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/8235","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/fourthamendment.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/fourthamendment.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/fourthamendment.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/fourthamendment.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=8235"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"http:\/\/fourthamendment.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/8235\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/fourthamendment.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=8235"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/fourthamendment.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=8235"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/fourthamendment.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=8235"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}