{"id":64833,"date":"2026-09-20T14:42:14","date_gmt":"2026-09-20T19:42:14","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/fourthamendment.com\/?p=64833"},"modified":"2026-09-20T14:42:14","modified_gmt":"2026-09-20T19:42:14","slug":"oh1-statute-says-id-cant-be-sought-when-def-in-back-of-police-car-because-its-not-a-public-place","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/fourthamendment.com\/?p=64833","title":{"rendered":"OH1: Statute says ID can&#8217;t be sought when def in back of police car because it&#8217;s not a &#8220;public place&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>While identification can be sought during a stop on reasonable suspicion under Hiibel under the Fourth Amendment, state statute says \u201cpublic place,\u201d and the back of a police car isn\u2019t. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.supremecourt.ohio.gov\/rod\/docs\/pdf\/1\/2026\/2026-Ohio-3614.pdf\">State v. Bell<\/a>, 2026-Ohio-3614 (1st Dist. Sep. 16, 2026).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>2254 successor petitioner raised his lack of discovery of his Fourth Amendment claim in his original petition, so it\u2019s barred. In re Surles, 2026 U.S. App. LEXIS 28366 (11th Cir. Sep. 15, 2026).*<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Plaintiff\u2019s malicious prosecution claim of violation of an order of protection is dismissed as legally frivolous and based on probable cause. The district court decided in on Heck grounds. Dougal v. Cty. of Saratoga, 2026 U.S. App. LEXIS 28285 (2d Cir. Sep. 16, 2026).*<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>While identification can be sought during a stop on reasonable suspicion under Hiibel under the Fourth Amendment, state statute says \u201cpublic place,\u201d and the back of a police car isn\u2019t. State v. Bell, 2026-Ohio-3614 (1st Dist. Sep. 16, 2026). 2254 &hellip; <a class=\"more-link\" href=\"http:\/\/fourthamendment.com\/?p=64833\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[50,126],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-64833","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-arrest-or-entry-on-arrest","category-issue-preclusion"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/fourthamendment.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/64833","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/fourthamendment.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/fourthamendment.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/fourthamendment.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/fourthamendment.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=64833"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"http:\/\/fourthamendment.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/64833\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":64834,"href":"http:\/\/fourthamendment.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/64833\/revisions\/64834"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/fourthamendment.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=64833"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/fourthamendment.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=64833"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/fourthamendment.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=64833"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}