{"id":18692,"date":"2015-09-04T07:19:26","date_gmt":"2015-09-04T12:19:26","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/fourthamendment.com\/?p=18692"},"modified":"2015-09-12T16:45:38","modified_gmt":"2015-09-12T21:45:38","slug":"ca8-rodriguez-loses-on-remand-to-davis-gfe","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/fourthamendment.com\/?p=18692","title":{"rendered":"CA8: Rodriguez loses on remand to Davis GFE [the ultimate perversion of good faith: the guy whose case made the rule loses, too]"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>WaPo: Volokh Conspiracy: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.washingtonpost.com\/news\/volokh-conspiracy\/wp\/2015\/09\/03\/rodriguez-wins-rodriguez-loses\/\">Rodriguez wins, Rodriguez loses<\/a> by Orin Kerr (<a href=\"http:\/\/media.ca8.uscourts.gov\/opndir\/15\/09\/131176P.pdf\">United States v. Rodriguez<\/a>, 2015 U.S. App. LEXIS 15675 (8th Cir. September 3, 2015):<br \/>\n<!--more--><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>An important theme in Fourth Amendment law these days is the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.law.columbia.edu\/media_inquiries\/news_events\/2013\/april2013\/scotus-4th-admendment-kerr\">rights\/remedy gap<\/a>. Over the past few years, courts have interpreted the Fourth Amendment broadly in some interesting ways. But when they have, a broad \u201cgood-faith exception\u201d kicks in and takes away any remedy for the violation that results from the court\u2019s broad interpretation. The result makes a lot of high-profile Fourth Amendment litigation mostly prospective. It\u2019s often clear at the outset that the defendant will lose eventually. The litigation is mostly about whether the defendant will lose on the right or lose on the remedy, with the difference being the prospective application of the rule.<\/p>\n<p>To be clear, I\u2019m no fan of this development. I have argued against it in articles (here and here) and in briefs and argument in Davis v. United States. But the Supreme Court is going in a different direction, so that\u2019s all just academic.<\/p>\n<p>That brings me to a new case on the rights\/remedy gap, <a href=\"http:\/\/media.ca8.uscourts.gov\/opndir\/15\/09\/131176P.pdf\">Rodriguez v. United States<\/a>, handed down Thursday by the Eighth Circuit. Rodriguez is on remand from <a href=\"http:\/\/www.supremecourt.gov\/opinions\/14pdf\/13-9972_p8k0.pdf\">April\u2019s Supreme Court decision of the same name<\/a>, which held that the government violated the Fourth Amendment by extending a traffic stop for seven or eight minutes while waiting for drug-sniffing dogs. According to the Supreme Court in Rodriguez, a traffic stop must end \u201cwhen tasks tied to the traffic infraction are \u2014 or reasonably should have been \u2014 completed.\u201d The Fourth Amendment does not permit an extension to wait for the dogs, so Rodriguez\u2019s Fourth Amendment rights were violated.<\/p>\n<p>On remand, the Eighth Circuit says that Rodriguez loses anyway. Eighth Circuit law \u201cprovided that a brief delay to employ a drug dog did not constitute an unconstitutional seizure, as long as the traffic stop was not unreasonably prolonged.\u201d Because the stop here was not unreasonably prolonged, the Davis good-faith exception applies, and there is no remedy for the violation. In response to Rodriguez\u2019s point that he wouldn\u2019t have litigated the case to the Supreme Court if he had known he would have lost anyway on the remedy, the Eighth Circuit offers the Supreme Court\u2019s answer from Davis: \u201c[A] good-faith exception for objectively reasonable reliance on binding precedent will not prevent review and correction of such decisions\u201d because \u201cdefendants in jurisdictions in which the question remains open will still have an undiminished incentive to litigate the issue.\u201d In other words, Rodriguez\u2019s incentive doesn\u2019t matter. If he hadn\u2019t litigated the issue, someone else might have.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>WaPo: Volokh Conspiracy: Rodriguez wins, Rodriguez loses by Orin Kerr (United States v. Rodriguez, 2015 U.S. App. LEXIS 15675 (8th Cir. September 3, 2015):<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[11],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-18692","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-good-faith-exception"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/fourthamendment.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/18692","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/fourthamendment.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/fourthamendment.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/fourthamendment.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/fourthamendment.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=18692"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"http:\/\/fourthamendment.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/18692\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":18696,"href":"http:\/\/fourthamendment.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/18692\/revisions\/18696"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/fourthamendment.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=18692"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/fourthamendment.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=18692"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/fourthamendment.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=18692"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}